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Old 05-08-2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by stainless
T2x , do you remember the year on that one? (Ocen City, MD) We ran there in 92 with us offshore and it sounds like the same race . Remember the whiplash 28 skater ?
I will check with Darren on the year as he has a mental database that makes me look like a piker........

Of course I remember Whiplash, and if you were out in that huge water in a 28 foot cat, you prove my point even more.

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Old 05-08-2008 | 09:40 AM
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How can those of us who didn't own a cat before the "no first-timers" rule came into effect buy a cat? The logic of that rule means that when all the long-time cat owners have died or quit cats will be uninsurable (because all owners will then be first-timers).
You just have to start small. My first cat was a 18' Mirage Jaguar. Those little boats really make you understand trim, etc. From there HTM, Spectre...
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Old 05-08-2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by randian
How can those of us who didn't own a cat before the "no first-timers" rule came into effect buy a cat? The logic of that rule means that when all the long-time cat owners have died or quit cats will be uninsurable (because all owners will then be first-timers).
Well, if you had bought a Skater when I started urging people to do so, you wouldn't have this problem. Now all of the "Vees are best" crowd....may be stuck with them

T2x........ full of sympathy today.
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Old 05-08-2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by T2x
"Vees are best" crowd....may be stuck with them

T2x........ full of sympathy today.
I'm sure that Skater,Nor-tech, Eliminator, DCB and anyone that wants to sell cats appreciate your sympathy to their shrinking market.
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Old 05-08-2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Von Bongo
Boy that's different than I was quoted. A 26 daytona with a 496ho is about an 80 MPH boat, and it was between 3 and 4K plus the tres course.

Never even came close to $1000 on my 28 pantera that ran close to that. 30 years of boating, never a claim, married with children, 760 credit scores, last speeding ticket was 15 years ago.

You must have a source other than Merkel.
my 26 ultra shadow(similar hull to a 26 daytona) with 525 runs me a little over 1300 a year, full coverage, no layup with Markel. Clean record, no claims, 1st cat for me but 20+ years of boat exp. I did take the Tres Martin class but it wasn't required and I took it 6 months after I already had the insurance. I figured the education was worth it alone.

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Old 05-08-2008 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Von Bongo
I'm sure that Skater,Nor-tech, Eliminator, DCB and anyone that wants to sell cats appreciate your sympathy to their shrinking market.
The cat market isn't the only one that is shrinking..... but I have enough sympathy to go around.

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Old 05-08-2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by randian
Having an engine die is a guaranteed crash in a cat? That's scary. What happens, the front end dives underwater when power abruptly stops?
absolutely not...i lost an engine in my 30 spectre at just over 90 mph...reminded me off getting a blow out in a car...slow and easy no abrubt moves and alls well...in my case anyway
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Old 05-08-2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by drejustice
my 26 ultra shadow(similar hull to a 26 daytona) with 525 runs me about 1300 a year, full coverage, no layup with markel. Clean record, no claims, 1st cat for me but 20+ years of boat exp.

Wow. That sounds incredibly low for your first cat.

I keep seeing about $4000 after Tres Martin class, and that's with an HO in a 26 foot cat. I wonder if it would be worth buying a 26 with 6.2 just to get "cat experience" and then swap the motor when insurance won't be more than the boat payment.
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Old 05-08-2008 | 03:12 PM
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I have to say the best rough water performance I ever saw.....and I saw a LOT...... was the Spirit of Norway at Ocean City Maryland in small craft warning conditions eating the 46' Apache "Tweets Revenge" for breakfast.
Kemosabe is the best, when you see the best 40' Skater go by Kemosabe in those conditions, then it is case closed. Truthfully, I don't think the Skater can do it. At least we have something to look forward to.
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Old 05-08-2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by berns29scarab
absolutely not...i lost an engine in my 30 spectre at just over 90 mph...reminded me off getting a blow out in a car...slow and easy no abrubt moves and alls well...in my case anyway
Same here, Dean and I lost an engine racing in Cambridge last year at a buck five and the boat just mildly pulled to the stbd side and slowed. Nothing abrupt at all. 30 foot AMT which is now predator, great handling boat.
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