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HJ...i have no issue with navigation with a compass and charts. i spend a lot of time in the mountains climbing in remote areas of the world. i have no problems charting and plotting when out at sea on large yachts as well. the ride was rough and a lot of equipment in the boat took some serious hits. jeff black and blue on one side of his body. 51 min in 130+ degree cockpit i would never want to repeat.
no skill at 200mph? wow...there is way more to it than most would think! both for the driver and throttleman. at 160 air comes in the front of a boat and leaves the back...over that air is trying to escape anywhere is can and out the sides! 190 the boat starts do some unusual things that if you have been there you wouldn't know how to react to. at 200 mph, its one football field every second and you better know what you are doing for sure! |
no skill at 200mph? wow...there is way more to it than most would think! both for the driver and throttleman. at 160 air comes in the front of a boat and leaves the back...over that air is trying to escape anywhere is can and out the sides! 190 the boat starts do some unusual things that if you have been there you wouldn't know how to react to. at 200 mph, its one football field every second and you better know what you are doing for sure! |
Originally Posted by audacity
(Post 3174419)
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it's kind of hard to race when the bottom keeps coming off the boat! Glad to see that did not happen at 200 MPH i would imagin it would make the boat pull to one side would it not ? |
at 200 mph, its one football field every second [/QUOTE]
WOW! never looked at it that way. |
I think it's silly and stupid to nitpick Joe S. because you don't like the way offshore racing is run these days. Boat racing has always been a rich man's sport all the way back to the days of Gar Wood. Guys who did it mostly for fun and bragging rights. The problem is, today, we don't have enough rich men in the sport. Who, out there among the complainers, is willing to organize a race way offshore with a big enough purse and sponsers to pay a working class guy to race a 40 Skater? I commend Joe and Jeff for their efforts and hope to see them running soon.
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Originally Posted by Double Down
(Post 3174422)
SK...yaaawwn....destroying the sport of offshore racing?? why don't you tell that to OPA, SBI, PROPRA and poker run/ festivals and others who beg for JBS to show up for races and appearances to...... and listen closely now.... to bring fans in, locals in, money in for concessions, money in for the community, media exposure and enjoyment for families and friends. they certainly are not the only ones people are coming out to see and all the other teams benefit from increased foot-traffic and media exposure of these events.
JBS, Jeff and Joey have been racing for years, they have a loyal following and some that always want to complain, but their determination to race and win is second to none.... they have had their share of setbacks but have not hung up their helmets yet... offshore racing, hmmm....seems to me they were just in Bimini and under increasingly brutal conditions seemed to smoke everyone else after starting last....don't worry they don't need your accolades, they run for pride and self accomplishment... oh and by the way, Joey did not repair the bottom of the Mystic after the Bimini run, it was "repaired" by Mystic and Cosker and after less that an hour of running sub 190 mph in a poker run and at St. Clair failed again in the same location. try and get a few facts straight next time....seems like a few of you guys just don't like someone else getting more of the attention.... I will give Joey credit for coming on here and engaging in what must be painful dialogue despite his seemingly uncanny ability to overstate and obfuscate. I would also point out that the reason all of this "criticism" has been created in the first place is simply the fact that JBS has seen fit to air all of their team's inside information and foibles.......... believing that by telling the world how various individuals repeatedly made suckers out of them, somehow makes them heros. As far as the various race org's "begging" them to show up..... don't look now but these groups beg everyone to show up...It's a very lean period in boat racing and the next step down after one boat in a class....is no boats in a class. Offshore racing is sad mockery of what it once was....... True it still has its die hard fan(s) (fans?)....and its even more die hard entrants....but as I have said too many times, enthusiasm, youth, fake boobs, booze, showing off, broken promises, throwing good money after bad, extravagance, and ignorance are not the recipe for racing success |
Originally Posted by PatriYacht
(Post 3174561)
The problem is, today, we don't have enough rich men in the sport.
Mauff, Qatar, Geico, JBS, Teague, Aquamania, Stihl, Peppers, JD Byrider, Prop stop, Dave Scott, etc.......... Put them all in ONE CLASS dammit!!!!! Then you'd actually have something worth talking about. |
Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3174562)
I will give Joey credit for coming on here and engaging in what must be painful dialogue despite his seemingly uncanny ability to overstate and obfuscate.
1. Render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible. 2. Bewilder (someone). have to admit I had to look that one up! |
Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3174284)
Maintenence? It's all 3-in-1 oil, ball bearings and gauze pads nowadays. :drink::drink:
[youtube]4prqDn7QS8I[/youtube] It's all about ball bearings!!! LMAO!!!:drink::drink: What an entertaining thread! |
No doubt, you need a big set of balls to be running over 200 mph....:drink:
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Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3174569)
I disagree.....
Mauff, Qatar, Geico, JBS, Teague, Aquamania, Stihl, Peppers, JD Byrider, Prop stop, Dave Scott, etc.......... Put them all in ONE CLASS dammit!!!!! Then you'd actually have something worth talking about. |
Re: Post 273. Fake boobs, booze, broken promises are the hallmarks of my entire life.........
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Originally Posted by BROWNIE
(Post 3174600)
Re: Post 273. Fake boobs, booze, broken promises are the hallmarks of my entire life.........
:drink::ernaehrung004::drink::ernaehrung004: |
Originally Posted by HabanaJoe
(Post 3174488)
"I was there when a compass, watch and chart were important" and people today will never get that chance.
I don't think I would have made a trip today to Bimini and back without the old school techniques at least as a back up plan should the electronics go out. Even to this day people always ask me if I have GPS in my truck and I say no, it would take the fun out of my road trips ! :drink: Chart and plot and away I go ! :evilb: |
navagatign with a sextant was hard Tim ??
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Originally Posted by BROWNIE
(Post 3174600)
Re: Post 273. Fake boobs, booze, broken promises are the hallmarks of my entire life.........
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Originally Posted by ActiveThunder
(Post 3174575)
ob·fus·cate/ˈäbfəˌskāt/Verb
1. Render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible. 2. Bewilder (someone). have to admit I had to look that one up! Thanks for looking it up Pat, I was going there next:drink: |
boatme...funny i am in spring lake now at my aunts...where i grew up as a kid and would wash the decks for some pizza for the racers back in the days of betty cook. i really looked up to them. it's also where i sailed everyday and raced a blow boat here and there. don't think many here have race the in key west in both a powerboat and a sail boat let alone in the same year?
i am not in here trying to be a hero! i am accomplishing exactly what i set out to do. the people that are REALLY helping JBS right now....there is no doubt they will do more business from it. the ones that have taken advantage of JBS; many are seeing their ways and learning from our mistakes. |
Originally Posted by ActiveThunder
(Post 3174575)
ob·fus·cate/ˈäbfəˌskāt/Verb
1. Render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible. 2. Bewilder (someone). have to admit I had to look that one up! |
Originally Posted by PatriYacht
(Post 3174561)
I think it's silly and stupid to nitpick Joe S. because you don't like the way offshore racing is run these days. Boat racing has always been a rich man's sport all the way back to the days of Gar Wood. Guys who did it mostly for fun and bragging rights. The problem is, today, we don't have enough rich men in the sport. Who, out there among the complainers, is willing to organize a race way offshore with a big enough purse and sponsers to pay a working class guy to race a 40 Skater? I commend Joe and Jeff for their efforts and hope to see them running soon.
:drink::drink::drink: |
Originally Posted by omerta one
(Post 3174638)
I spent all my money on booze, babes and boats...the rest I just wasted.
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Originally Posted by boatme
(Post 3174620)
navagatign with a sextant was hard Tim ??
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Originally Posted by SHARKEY-IMAGES
(Post 3174613)
As a navigator for several teams back in the day I enjoyed that part the most because several races were won on navigation.
I don't think I would have made a trip today to Bimini and back without the old school techniques at least as a back up plan should the electronics go out. Even to this day people always ask me if I have GPS in my truck and I say no, it would take the fun out of my road trips ! :drink: Chart and plot and away I go ! :evilb: When mapping software really started ramping up i went out and bought a nice big multi feature gps that pretty much for me ended up being just a novelty that tells me how fast I'm going and thats about it, all the other info i already know. |
Originally Posted by BROWNIE
(Post 3174600)
Re: Post 273. Fake boobs, booze, broken promises are the hallmarks of my entire life.........
Can I borrow a few hundred thousand? I will gladly repay you on Tuesday. |
Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3174660)
Me too....I was like WTF is this.....Oh Webster come hither!!!! :lolhit::lolhit:
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Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3174569)
I disagree.....
Mauff, Qatar, Geico, JBS, Teague, Aquamania, Stihl, Peppers, JD Byrider, Prop stop, Dave Scott, etc.......... Put them all in ONE CLASS dammit!!!!! Then you'd actually have something worth talking about. |
Coffin
Pull to one side-are you for real?at 200 mph if anything goes wrong or we make a mistake we along with the boat would instantly be chum.it's like a 200 mph coffin.it would be fun to watch you **** yourself in the back seat.
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Originally Posted by ActiveThunder
(Post 3174575)
ob·fus·cate/ˈäbfəˌskāt/Verb
1. Render obscure, unclear, or unintelligible. 2. Bewilder (someone). have to admit I had to look that one up! I knew that one.......but had to look up this one: ignorance :drink::drink: |
Originally Posted by JBS
(Post 3174739)
Pull to one side-are you for real?at 200 mph if anything goes wrong or we make a mistake we along with the boat would instantly be chum.it's like a 200 mph coffin.it would be fun to watch you **** yourself in the back seat.
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Originally Posted by Mike A.
(Post 3174728)
Interesting you say that Rich. When I was in Sarasota last month looking around the Pits I started wondering what the sport would look like if everyone there sold their stuff and bought brand new single engine 100mph spec racers. Then I started wondering what the sport would look like if you made the boats single crew racers i.e. one guy in the boat does everything. Hmmmmmm.
It would certainly work, but then guys like Benny, Michael Seebold, Joey Imprescia, JT, Stevie and other real boat racers would outdrive all the wannabe's......... At that moment there would be a real opportunity for a proper spectator sport. You would have to move fast though because the well heeled guys running back in the pack would immediately start petitioning for a bigger hull, more motors, an exclusive TV show about their team.....you know.... the usual bull sh*t..... |
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Originally Posted by JBS
(Post 3174739)
Pull to one side-are you for real?at 200 mph if anything goes wrong or we make a mistake we along with the boat would instantly be chum.it's like a 200 mph coffin.it would be fun to watch you **** yourself in the back seat.
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ok, while I am getting caught up, skaterdave worked for a race team so that makes him an expert, I spent a year with "a turbine" team (not JBS) so that must make me know everything also.. I still don't see where you explained who you are or your credentials? Do you have a skater? have you ever been on a race course? you want to call him out on everything, so as far as the bikes go I'll tell ya what, I have a brand new zx14 sitting in my garage you are more than welcome to come use to race him on a track.. What is your stake in this? did your SC team get lapped by their F2 boat and hurt your feelings, one of the JBS guys bannged your wife at a rice?? what??
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Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3174712)
Sorry Sean....... but as I recall there were days that you didn't recognise the word Stinson either.
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Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3175070)
Did you have to bring that part out....I am trying to portray the new Sean Stinson....matured and.....well I can't find the proper word at the moment but I will recognise it when I see it!!!!
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Originally Posted by Mike A.
(Post 3174728)
Interesting you say that Rich. When I was in Sarasota last month looking around the Pits I started wondering what the sport would look like if everyone there sold their stuff and bought brand new single engine 100mph spec racers. Then I started wondering what the sport would look like if you made the boats single crew racers i.e. one guy in the boat does everything. Hmmmmmm.
Just sayin'. |
Originally Posted by Matt Trulio
(Post 3175092)
Now wait a minute, boys: I seem to recall a Super Cat class that in 1999 and 2000 that was absolutely rocking both in the number of teams and closeness of competition, and it's nothing like the class described above.
Just sayin'. Mike's point is that anybody who owns an Offshore race boat can afford a single engine vee and all of the big boys can afford a Supercat lite......... all it takes is the guts to swallow your checkbook and enter a truly competitive arena. T2x |
Audacity
Aren't you the same rider that made the rude comment about Bobby keiths girlfriend at the airport after Mid-Ohio? and the same guy who threw a crank at Ed Toomey in the garage at brainerd? p.s Gregg Esser said to say hello |
Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3175070)
Did you have to bring that part out....I am trying to portray the new Sean Stinson....matured and.....well I can't find the proper word at the moment but I will recognise it when I see it!!!!
I can attest, that after many years of personal knowledge and dubious friendship. Sean Stinson is truly "a legend in his own mind". |
Originally Posted by audacity
(Post 3174655)
boatme...funny i am in spring lake now at my aunts...where i grew up as a kid and would wash the decks for some pizza for the racers back in the days of betty cook. i really looked up to them. it's also where i sailed everyday and raced a blow boat here and there. don't think many here have race the in key west in both a powerboat and a sail boat let alone in the same year?
i am not in here trying to be a hero! i am accomplishing exactly what i set out to do. the people that are REALLY helping JBS right now....there is no doubt they will do more business from it. the ones that have taken advantage of JBS; many are seeing their ways and learning from our mistakes. Be great to have lunch and catch up My office is close by |
Originally Posted by JBS
(Post 3174739)
Pull to one side-are you for real?at 200 mph if anything goes wrong or we make a mistake we along with the boat would instantly be chum.it's like a 200 mph coffin.it would be fun to watch you **** yourself in the back seat.
Of course i know it would pull to one side Geeeez lighten up on those of us who arent even tossing stones your way (yet) |
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