lol :evilb::evilb::evilb:

Just some info i have turned up my 1075s on my 43 and have seen speeds over 150. Not to let cat out of the bag , but have bin in another 43 at factory with 1400hp and seen 178 on rev limiter. Mike can break record at any time, more worried in building and selling boats right now.

Fountain Race Boat / KILO Boat
 

The same person that bought the boat from Pier 57 a few years ago still owns it today.

The transom was not damaged from use or build. The boat was set up for 6's when Reggie set the KILO with it. The 1550's were taken out by Reggie Jr, he also filled the transom and converted to a 525 Bravo boat. When the current owner bought the boat he converted it to a SSM6 boat and had Capt Naber's beef up the transom. The boat is currently on consignment with us and has fresh power.

http://www.teamshogren.com/pre-owned...race-boat.html

Regards,

Shogren

www.teamshogren.com

Well that is quite a bit different than the story I was told by Tom McNabb and I did see the ultra thin outer skin. But who am I to argue with Team Shogren. Good luck with the sale.

Isn't this an OL thread?
 

I did not personally see the repair, were only told by Tom that it was beefed up and that when it was rigged with Bravo's it could have been done better. It's our understanding that the thickness was not problem, but rather the way it was fixed when converted from 6's to Bravo's. I am not sure if owner of boat is on board but I am sure if he is he would be happy to share any insight or pictures. Tom is one of the best in the industry at transoms. Darn shame it was ever converted from 6's to bravos. No question it was light layup and if you know Tom you know any work owner did was done properly. Still a very cool boat at the end of the day and can be seen from time to time on Lake MI. Can't be to bad, after all it still holds the kilo and has never delaminated. A bit more HP and it would be a great poker run boat or enter in a P Class for racing.

Regards,

Shogren

www.teamshogren.com

Kilo Boat
 

If this is the boat you saw, this s the one that had the kilo. It was the RioRoses/Fountain/Pier 57 boat that was driven by Reggie Sr & Ben Robertson to set the record. Pretty cool piece of history. Yes, it was the one at Naber's that had to be taken care of after they converted from 6's to bravo's back to 6's.

http://www.teamshogren.com/pre-owned...race-boat.html

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Shogren

OL makes a very cool boat as well and who know's, maybe Reggie Fountain and or Mike Fiore are up to something and a new kilo in the future. A square off and rematch would be a cool idea that maybe some others would consider getting involved for bragging rights.

I really cannot be sure if that was the boat. I did not take pictures. There was a large logo at the stern that was half gone and covered in primer. It may have said Pier 57, I don't remember. The outer layer of glass at the side thru-hulls was literally no more that 2 mm thick. If I were buying that boat I would have my surveyor pop out a thru-hull and look at the lay-up. You might want to correct the speed record in the description from 177.883 to 171.883. ;) Here is why I was there; I took my Donzi to get some cosmetic warranty glass work done and the Fountain was in the shop.
http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/x...s101Medium.jpg

Nice Donzi Classic
 

Very cool Donzi Classic, Tom restores quite a few of those for people. You are right ALL boats should be surveyed, it's the best $13 - $16.00 per ft a consumer can spend. There is actually a new FLIR camera that some surveyors have that works like an xray machine and they can see into the structure, it's very cool.

Regards,

Shogren

Thanks man. I want you to know that I have great respect for Shogren and also Pier 57. I have said my 6 cents worth and that's that. :)

You're a cop in CA correct?

If you pull me over for speeding and I challenge you in court with my hand held "State of the Art GPS" that disputes your certified calibrated radar, do I get a "Get out of Jail Free" card? :lolhit: :evilb:


Immediate Release:
> February 9, 2004
>
> In a certified speed trial, sanctioned by the NATIONAL POWERBOAT
> ASSOCIATION on Friday, February 6, 2004, Mike Fiore, President of
> OUTERLIMITS POWERBOATS, averaged 161.29 MPH for a kilometer verified on
> "state of the art" GPS in his new 47' canopied model named, "XXX". This
run
> took place on Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island at 3 pm EST, February 6,
2004,
> on a chilly, drizzly afternoon. After travelling North over a mile out of
> the channel at 161.88 MPH and returning South at 160.7 MPH, the average
> speed was 161.29 MPH. This makes the 47 GTX the first V-Bottom to eclipse
> the 160 MPH barrier in an officially sanctioned event. This run was
> confirmed by co-pilot, Billy Frenz, Executive Director of the NPBA. This
> boat is powered by twin 1450 HP Sterling Engines with No. 6 Merc
> Speedmasters and Hering Propellers.
> OUTERLIMITS presently holds the Official V-Bottom Kilo Record of
149.7
> MPH in a 42' GTX model, also powered with twim 1450 HP Sterlings, Merc
> Speedmasters and Hering Props. This record was set in Washington, North
> Carolina on October 3, 2003 and officiated by Poker Runs of America.
> "What a rush!!!" exclaimed Billy Frenz as he emerged from the cockpit
> after the run..."This boat is going to disappoint a lot of Cat owners at
our
> NEW YORK CITY POWERBOAT RALLY"...referring to the annual June event held
on
> the Hudson River that determines the fastest catamarans and the fastest
> V-bottoms.
> For further info visit: www.nationalpowerboat.com
> or, www.outerlimitspowerboats.com

really,and danny didn't brag about it,then i doubt it happened.plus if it did,then ol has a boat faster than their own cat.because i know how fast the cat was going up to key west w/ 1400's and funny,it was on the rev limiters too.but i believe the guy who gave me that tid bit.

people always hate better things. But people that have better things at time like to think and let people know their things are better.

Ford, Chevy,Dodge.

EVERYBODY KNOWS CHEVY IS THE BEST!!!!!!!! FORD SUCKS! DODGE IS A POS!

:lolhit::angry-smiley-038: LOL!

LOL.....I love Ford, but a friend of mine says buying a Ford is like paying to get VD. :D

the sv43 with1075's ran 139-140 its posted by dan and on youtube and in the outerlimits section of OSO.. the sv43 with the 1375 and 1425's in it ran 148-150 as iam close friends with the engine builder who built those motors... the outerlimits cat that had juiced up 1820's also built by the same builder ran 178mph(motors were turned down and rev limiter set at 7400rpm) all fact not internet fiction

A) If I pulled you over, it'd be your lucky day 'cause I like you.
B) You woundnt win in court, even if you tried. :lolhit:

Im ready to start boating

+1

I remember that trash talkin! Good stuff.

If I remember right OL didn't even run???

Correct. Mikey got a bad batch of scrambled eggs for breakfast that morning, somewhere in NC, got "pouty" and went back up north !!! LOL :lolhit::lolhit::evilb:


(Thanks Tank !! ;) )

Atleast ill have something pretty to look at on my way bye! LOL

What u think Ur gonna run now that your detuned?

700's should get him running 90+, not just in the salt. :lolhit:

iirc during the Kilo attempt, didn't they have a set of Race Crafters in the boat, one was tired at 28hrs? This is a few years ago....in regards to XXX...

The 147 Kilo official run in Bob Russels "can you hear me now" was a GTX and ran with 1480 Gellners..I know XXX had much larger power at that time...that was after Rock-It (which burned up and is/was sitting behind MRD on long island...)

I also know he had one boat running in the 170s...I believe that was a 47 he had running and still runs out in WA...

I know Terry and Rory run out there, with the 1550 Sterlings and that thing is a bullet...and cannot be caught in the rough water...hard on the limiters in a full cabin 42 Legacy.... @ 148+

Clash of the titans......it doesnt get any better than this.
Reggie may have rubbed you the wrong way, but you got to admit....he sure kept it stirred up!!:popcorn::popcorn:

[YOUTUBE]m2NHBoiP9Go[/YOUTUBE]

A skater, I mean Fountain, I mean...who built that bottom again?

;)

Not for nothing, that thing ran beautiful....right on edge..

I remember that...

Hmmmm....interesting. That Fountain is MOVING.

I dunno, I seen 95 on his gps with 900's and no fuel. Thinkin now that he's detuned I might have a chance in hell. Hopefully. :thankyouthankyou:

I think I got a few more mph to pull out of the new ride. Few more phone calls to make.

Travis runs a little over 100 with around 750hp in a 2000 37 stiletto.

Those were great runs for a 2 way pass in a V!:ernaehrung004:

Wellllll ****.........:hitfan:

There is no benefit to stretch the truth, fact my 1075 sv43 ran 140 at loto fresh water measured mile, warm weather. Big wheels cold weather have seen big speeds. The other boat that ran 178 could have had more than 1400hp, it was turning 7500. I think the fountain was a larger boat, also don't think the sterling 1550hp really make that much power.

i never said a word about OSO and i can assure you that's not where it came from buddy

do we really need oso to do the math on how much power your motors need to be turned up to do this 150.
what excaliper47 said is actual fact,what you've said,well,i don't know.:hitfan:

For the SV43 about 1200-1250hp, not really a problem. Given time to strech out, it also will run 142+ with stock 1075 power. Heck, the SL44 will run 140 with stock power and it'll do that loaded with comfort.
SV43, am I right in assuming you're not propped for all out speed, but also a bit of accelleration when running in the low 140 numbers?

I thought I read in the OL forum that this particular 44 had no cabin and it was extremely cold when she ran 139mph in the turned up last 1075 stock power...

Hm, yes come to think of it. I think it have what they call a "basic cabin". I know it has a bow thruster:D The motors were not turned up for that run btw. Even though it was cold, it is still a slower boat than the SV43, so the 139-140 number is still very good for any 44 with that power.

When Ol tells you the motors are NOT "turned up" , they are turned up.

:poopoo:

That was my first time driving the boat:poopoo:

I hope to be low 90's and maybe 95. Im not sure that I was setup rite/ drove it rite. I had over 25% prop slip. In the end I just want to boat every weekend and not too worried aobut my top speed.