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Dan Adams 11-15-2012 09:47 AM

Preview http://youtu.be/ttN2stWdoeg not sure how big, CJ or Parn would know. Maybe 3 to 5s with some big holes. This would be Big Steve and Valako in Blue Moon. (A couple of the old guys) They were still dialing in the SCXs. He had trouble keeping water pressure up.

laszlo01 11-15-2012 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 3815427)
I'd guess 3 to 4s. Guarantee if there's 6 to 8 on Lake Michigan none of y'all will go out. Plus the way I was brought up when you're in anything bigger then 4s life jackets are mandatory.

Sorry to say I was out there with him and it was not 3-4s. And here comes the old wave height debate... Carry On :evilb:

MILD THUNDER 11-15-2012 09:58 AM

Heres a old video of me along the chicago shoreline years back. We were in my 40FT Excalibur Hawk, buddy in his Scarab III. Sorry about the crap quality, go pros werent out and we had flip phones. This was shot with a old CAMCORDER!! Not to mention lots of spray. As you'll see the old camcorder didnt fair well with water!. I had a rain suit on. Call it what you want. Id call it 6-7ft. Note the scarab gets swallowed up a few times. I laugh though when I see the claims on oso, of guys in 32ft boats claiming they ran 80+ in 6 ft seas. Sure.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIrmoPGWAys[/youtube]

MILD THUNDER 11-15-2012 10:04 AM

Hey Thumper Jim, you got any pics of that old Black 38 Scarab??? I only saw that thing after it caught fire and was sitting in the old crowleys boat yard downtown. I bet that boat was bad a$$ when you had it. It had some big power in it too didnt it???

tizbad4 11-15-2012 10:38 AM

[QUOTE=sommerfliesby;3815218]Well..the five other people in my boat plus the 5 or 6 in Laszlo's boat could probably refute what it "looks like" to you and give you an accurate description....NOBODY would have been going 120 in that water. The GoPro really smoothed it out as far as perspective.

I merely offer this as a reality-based arguement about how difficult this proposed "race" might prove to the average, non-racing boater.[/QUO

Here is another clip of that day we definitely knocked the tops off some that day.
http://youtu.be/1IcyvI4Z_rY

Twin O/B Sonic 11-15-2012 10:46 AM

Stood beside a guy at Key West for the races Sunday when I was saying I heard 5' - 7's the day before and 25mph+ winds when he replied that he was out in it in his 40' Skater :helmet: I wanted to ask him more but was too far away. His reaction sounded like it was as not fun though.
I really did want to hear his honest opinion. IMO, 40' of anything ain't big enough for that crap!
Just sayin....

thumper038 11-15-2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3815567)
Hey Thumper Jim, you got any pics of that old Black 38 Scarab??? I only saw that thing after it caught fire and was sitting in the old crowleys boat yard downtown. I bet that boat was bad a$$ when you had it. It had some big power in it too didnt it???

Thanks,
We have lots of pics and had a lot of fun with that boat when it burnt I was like o sh1t cause I built the power and was relieved when it started in the cabin, rumors Maybe the brand new stereo or smoking???

My boy cried when he saw the pictures and for years he wanted to fix it back up!

Yea it had some high compression Merlin Engines that was the boat we "RACED Not professional I tell ya" but none the less raced Tim Edwards a time or two across the pond.
I like street/water grudge racing for fun!!!

Way less B/S than running with a pack that changes the rules to suit their needs and then whines when someone outside the circle starts winning.

But that is another total thread topic in itself. :party-smiley-004:
THIS IS NOT A RACE :poopoo:

thumper038 11-15-2012 10:59 AM

[QUOTE=tizbad4;3815581]

Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3815218)
Well..the five other people in my boat plus the 5 or 6 in Laszlo's boat could probably refute what it "looks like" to you and give you an accurate description....NOBODY would have been going 120 in that water. The GoPro really smoothed it out as far as perspective.

I merely offer this as a reality-based arguement about how difficult this proposed "race" might prove to the average, non-racing boater.[/QUO

Here is another clip of that day we definitely knocked the tops off some that day.
http://youtu.be/1IcyvI4Z_rY

Cool video
You were having fun weren't you go ahead it's ok say it :lolhit:
To me that is fun but I am not normal :helmet:

thumper038 11-15-2012 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3815557)
Sorry to say I was out there with him and it was not 3-4s. And here comes the old wave height debate... Carry On :evilb:

T2X said there 25's :lolhit::angry-smiley-038::evilb::daz::poopoo:

MILD THUNDER 11-15-2012 11:09 AM

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I'd like to get my buddy out with his old dinosaur. Slow as a snail, but this thing is unbelievable in big water. Ive never been in a 41 apache in big water, nor a skater. I have been on a 38 Flatdeck cig, and while that too is a awesome ride, this old USA racing cat would out run it in the big stuff imo.

A few years back, I had my old 402 Formula. 24* hull, heavy as they came, true 40ft Vee. My buddy and I had planned to run up to chicago from hammond for the day. We rolled out of the cal sag, and got outside the break wall. Holy mother of god I thought, here we go!! I did everything I could to keep from busting my Formula up into small pieces that day, and stay on plane. Ran about 35-40mph max, as that was about all i could do. My buddy next to me in the big old cat, was doing well. Finally, after about 10 miles of this, he had enough waiting around. He nailed it and let that boat do its thing, and man did it do it. It crushed about everything in its path, and watched him stand that boat on its tail a few times. Finally we arrived to chicago. I spent about 30 minutes in my cabin assessing, fixing and reattaching the damage. He just sat there drinking beer on his boat with a smile.


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