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TeamSaris 11-15-2012 11:14 AM

Ocean City this year was rougher than [email protected] know they're in different classes....but a 41 Apache with 800s still got lapped by a 388 Skater with 525s

thumper038 11-15-2012 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3815598)
I'd like to get my buddy out with his old dinosaur. Slow as a snail, but this thing is unbelievable in big water. Ive never been in a 41 apache in big water, nor a skater. I have been on a 38 Flatdeck cig, and while that too is a awesome ride, this old USA racing cat would out run it in the big stuff imo.

A few years back, I had my old 402 Formula. 24* hull, heavy as they came, true 40ft Vee. My buddy and I had planned to run up to chicago from hammond for the day. We rolled out of the cal sag, and got outside the break wall. Holy mother of god I thought, here we go!! I did everything I could to keep from busting my Formula up into small pieces that day, and stay on plane. Ran about 35-40mph max, as that was about all i could do. My buddy next to me in the big old cat, was doing well. Finally, after about 10 miles of this, he had enough waiting around. He nailed it and let that boat do its thing, and man did it do it. It crushed about everything in its path, and watched him stand that boat on its tail a few times. Finally we arrived to chicago. I spent about 30 minutes in my cabin assessing, fixing and reattaching the damage. He just sat there drinking beer on his boat with a smile.

Yea Boyee the good ole days, DO I miss the fun we had !!!
Love it when a newbie shot out into open water from the Cal Sag opening to the lake and stood it on end LOL!

thumper038 11-15-2012 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3815602)
Ocean City this year was rougher than [email protected] know they're in different classes....but a 41 Apache with 800s still got lapped by a 388 Skater with 525s

TAA DAA!
:circle:
Skater Nation :thankyouthankyou:

cfischer 11-15-2012 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Adams (Post 3815555)
Preview http://youtu.be/ttN2stWdoeg not sure how big, CJ or Parn would know. Maybe 3 to 5s with some big holes. This would be Big Steve and Valako in Blue Moon. (A couple of the old guys) They were still dialing in the SCXs. He had trouble keeping water pressure up.

Man that video is awesome! Miss those waves. Sorry but no 40 skater is gonna get out in that chit and run on top of them especially if its just a fun run. talking broken backs and lots of broken chit. i'll take being in a 41' any day over that water. ask Parn what he did to his Saber in 5ft waves. 6 to 8ft waves are nothing to mess with especially on Lake Michigan where they come at you from all angles. 6 to 8s in the ocean when they are really spread apart yea all day but you won't be hitting high mph. but then again there are some guys on here telling me they were on Lake Ontario running 100mph in 6 to 8s. me and all my buddies must have no idea what we're doing out there when it comes to being in waves cause no way we're running high mph

Dan Adams 11-15-2012 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3815602)
Ocean City this year was rougher than [email protected] know they're in different classes....but a 41 Apache with 800s still got lapped by a 388 Skater with 525s

Was the Apache with 800s able to get on plane? :party-smiley-004:

TeamSaris 11-15-2012 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Adams (Post 3815647)
Was the Apache with 800s able to get on plane? :party-smiley-004:

Yup! Won its class, ran awesome, no doubt.

TeamSaris 11-15-2012 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by thumper038 (Post 3815611)
TAA DAA!
:circle:
Skater Nation :thankyouthankyou:

But...what does racing proove? :cartman:

Boat looks great Thump!

WeaponX 11-15-2012 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Adams (Post 3815555)
Preview http://youtu.be/ttN2stWdoeg not sure how big, CJ or Parn would know. Maybe 3 to 5s with some big holes. This would be Big Steve and Valako in Blue Moon. (A couple of the old guys) They were still dialing in the SCXs. He had trouble keeping water pressure up.

Thank you Dan for a video of 3 - 5 foot waves .
Looks like a ride

Tony Montana 11-15-2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3815557)
Sorry to say I was out there with him and it was not 3-4s. And here comes the old wave height debate... Carry On :evilb:



1st off let me say I am a big fan of Apache,Skater and AT. Owned a 36 Apache and have been in 33 AT and 37 AT with Pat. Love yours and everybody else's enthusiasm but that video was no where near 6-8's. I can ensure you there is no way in hell anybody not in a bolster will not be bouncing off the floor(hell at one point in the video Pat nonchalantly is looking at his cell phone) in TRUE 6-8's. In this onion run I am rooting for the Apache. But unless you get REAL 6-8's the Skater may have the atvantage. The video posted from MI with the 36 Apache was in 4-6's with some nasty holes maybe up to 8' here and there. Watch how that bow is going up. I have been in real 6-8's with my 36 Apache and lets just say the amount of air hang time would leave Michael Jordan jelous:angry-smiley-038: It really is not for the faint of heart and is very dangerous. Other then that carry on:ernaehrung004:

thumper038 11-15-2012 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Tony Montana (Post 3815715)
1st off let me say I am a big fan of Apache,Skater and AT. Owned a 36 Apache and have been in 33 AT and 37 AT with Pat. Love yours and everybody else's enthusiasm but that video was no where near 6-8's. I can ensure you there is no way in hell anybody not in a bolster will not be bouncing off the floor(hell at one point in the video Pat nonchalantly is looking at his cell phone) in TRUE 6-8's. In this onion run I am rooting for the Apache. But unless you get REAL 6-8's the Skater may have the atvantage. The video posted from MI with the 36 Apache was in 4-6's with some nasty holes maybe up to 8' here and there. Watch how that bow is going up. I have been in real 6-8's with my 36 Apache and lets just say the amount of air hang time would leave Michael Jordan jelous:angry-smiley-038: It really is not for the faint of heart and is very dangerous. Other then that carry on:ernaehrung004:

Thank you !
You have been there !!!


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