Ben Kramer to be released!?!?
10-19-2014 | 12:27 AM
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I think it was more of a I put in x amount of dough and you put in x amount type of thing. Parn already had his 41 at the time BTW I loved Ancestrial Spirit. I think WW was for sale at the time and Vorce was going to "broker" the boat and that is how WW got caught up in the mess. I again can't remember all of it but that is the basics of it. Parn and Doug are very cool guys and it really sucked for them
10-19-2014 | 01:06 AM
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I think it was more of a I put in x amount of dough and you put in x amount type of thing. Parn already had his 41 at the time BTW I loved Ancestrial Spirit. I think WW was for sale at the time and Vorce was going to "broker" the boat and that is how WW got caught up in the mess. I again can't remember all of it but that is the basics of it. Parn and Doug are very cool guys and it really sucked for them
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10-19-2014 | 07:54 AM
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The publicity was the culprit. Saber is still building boats I believe someone can order a 41 if they wanted to.
10-19-2014 | 08:00 AM
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10-19-2014 | 09:32 AM
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Thank You Charlie for taking the time to answer my never ending questions.
You gentleman from the Golden Era of Offshore are a absolute treat to have on here. Your knowledge and comprehension of the history is irreplaceable.
Love the Stories. Thank you
Few more questions if you feel up to it.
Was the 39 mold that you bought from Mr Saccenti also just a stretch of a 35 cigarette but maybe stretched in a different area of the hull as far as stern to bow ?
Also was there any 39s built from Mr Saccentis mold before he sold it to you?
You gentleman from the Golden Era of Offshore are a absolute treat to have on here. Your knowledge and comprehension of the history is irreplaceable.
Love the Stories. Thank you
Few more questions if you feel up to it.
Was the 39 mold that you bought from Mr Saccenti also just a stretch of a 35 cigarette but maybe stretched in a different area of the hull as far as stern to bow ?
Also was there any 39s built from Mr Saccentis mold before he sold it to you?
The concept for doing that .......blocking down to a 36 was a pretty smart idea and we intend to do the same and come out with a 36 also. There is a hint in here Tommy.
10-19-2014 | 10:08 AM
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No it was not a stretch as the 39 does not have the famous crease in the side of the boat. No other 39's were made by Bobby before I bought the mold and yes it was used for some other layups one of which has proven to be a very good 36 foot center console. The mold was blocked down for that size.....36.
The concept for doing that .......blocking down to a 36 was a pretty smart idea and we intend to do the same and come out with a 36 also. There is a hint in here Tommy.
The concept for doing that .......blocking down to a 36 was a pretty smart idea and we intend to do the same and come out with a 36 also. There is a hint in here Tommy.
10-19-2014 | 12:39 PM
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No it was not a stretch as the 39 does not have the famous crease in the side of the boat. No other 39's were made by Bobby before I bought the mold and yes it was used for some other layups one of which has proven to be a very good 36 foot center console. The mold was blocked down for that size.....36.
The concept for doing that .......blocking down to a 36 was a pretty smart idea and we intend to do the same and come out with a 36 also. There is a hint in here Tommy.
The concept for doing that .......blocking down to a 36 was a pretty smart idea and we intend to do the same and come out with a 36 also. There is a hint in here Tommy.
10-19-2014 | 01:19 PM
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Hey I hope some evidence surfaces and the previous charges against him for the Aronow dealings are found to be false . If they can positively prove that some other person .group or Cartel had something to do with it
But so far the jury and the timing weighs on the disagreement Ben had with Aronow that was outstanding.
But so far the jury and the timing weighs on the disagreement Ben had with Aronow that was outstanding.
