tundra and silverado/denali 6.2 owners
06-29-2012 | 08:11 AM
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There was a lot of sound engineering decisions that went into deciding what the LS motor would be. I actually read an interview with the lead engineer on that project. There actually was a lot of marketing pressure to make it an OHC platform. The LS platform is one of the most powerful engine platform ever designed pound for pound and for it's overall size. DOHC engines have a much higher center of gravity and they just move the torque curve up the rpm range. Smokey Yunich experimented with DOHC engines with Chevrolet Engineering back in the 60's and 70's and they discovered the same thing. The typical street vehicle needs low end grunt than it needs to breath at 7k+.
I am not hearing much about the 6.2L GM truck packages. A Denali is not designed for serious towing, it's designed for city driving with a utility trailer. My brother has a GMC with the MAX towing package, I'd put money on it that if your Formula wasn't strapped down he could yank the trailer out from under it. I have a modified 5.3 in my Suburban and he pulls on me like I'm stopped. I'm shopping myself for a good tow vehicle and for too many reasons to list here don't want to move up to a 3/4 ton. I have looked at Ford, Dodge and GM side by side and the GM with the MAX is by far the most powerful of the 3. Don't buy anything until you've driven one. I agree it's not the prettiest of the bunch. One thing I've learned in life is that the prettiest girl at the dance is usually the most ill mannered.
I am not hearing much about the 6.2L GM truck packages. A Denali is not designed for serious towing, it's designed for city driving with a utility trailer. My brother has a GMC with the MAX towing package, I'd put money on it that if your Formula wasn't strapped down he could yank the trailer out from under it. I have a modified 5.3 in my Suburban and he pulls on me like I'm stopped. I'm shopping myself for a good tow vehicle and for too many reasons to list here don't want to move up to a 3/4 ton. I have looked at Ford, Dodge and GM side by side and the GM with the MAX is by far the most powerful of the 3. Don't buy anything until you've driven one. I agree it's not the prettiest of the bunch. One thing I've learned in life is that the prettiest girl at the dance is usually the most ill mannered.
Good points.
I tend to think that with the changes in oil and the roller use now that the insatiable demand for acceleration is best met with DOHC due to its better high rpm breathing.
I shouldnt be so staunch as extinct with OHV. It just seems that demand rules it out.
07-01-2012 | 06:55 PM
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07-02-2012 | 02:30 PM
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Read this...
http://www.toyoland.com/trucks/tundra-2007.html
http://www.toyoland.com/trucks/tundra-2007.html
WOW........ what a pathetic journalistic attempt to Americanize an asian vehicle.
"more ram than ram" "made by Americans"...Not a full floating component in the entire assembly, which means it is NOT a truck. Trucks have floating axles and this thing is still a pickup trying to pose as a truck. toyota is not the only one using this ploy.
Like I said.......... paint an American flag on it and it still is NOT American!!!!
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09-05-2012 | 12:06 PM
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09-05-2012 | 12:27 PM
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Totally disagree here. Pushrods are a smaller, lighter more affordable package that get just as good or better fuel economy. They only fall short if displacement/hp is your metric, which is the most useless metric possible. There's a reason the SBC is continually the motor of choice for people building a car.
DOHC's have their place, but aren't the end all be all.
DOHC's have their place, but aren't the end all be all.
Ford and dodge I think played it right they built something that somebody always wanted a truck that gets great MPG and can tow almost as much as a 3/4 ton gasser. While GM built what peopled needed. Which is fine but the other two are capturing the market on diesel owners and people who otherwise would be undertowing with current vehicle.
09-05-2012 | 05:20 PM
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Saw that a long time ago.
I haven't checked into the whole jaded thing there but that has more hocus pokus than a magic show. Serious fact checking needed!!!!!!!
09-05-2012 | 05:47 PM
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WOW........ what a pathetic journalistic attempt to Americanize an asian vehicle. "more ram than ram" "made by Americans"...
Not a full floating component in the entire assembly, which means it is NOT a truck. Trucks have floating axles and this thing is still a pickup trying to pose as a truck. toyota is not the only one using this ploy.
Like I said.......... paint an American flag on it and it still is NOT American!!!!
"more ram than ram" "made by Americans"...Not a full floating component in the entire assembly, which means it is NOT a truck. Trucks have floating axles and this thing is still a pickup trying to pose as a truck. toyota is not the only one using this ploy.
Like I said.......... paint an American flag on it and it still is NOT American!!!!
09-06-2012 | 07:58 AM
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the 5.3l is solid for the day and is still solid I wouldnt say its crap, but to say its great is an overstatement as well. In todays world for a 1/2 ton truck(the chevy) to tow 5-7k lbs which 75% of people do and to get the HP and torque it provides is pretty good. I towed a 5k boat before my fountain with a chevy and it worked great. problem is chevy has been left in the dust by Ford and Dodge on making some real hercs in the towing department.
Ford and dodge I think played it right they built something that somebody always wanted a truck that gets great MPG and can tow almost as much as a 3/4 ton gasser. While GM built what peopled needed. Which is fine but the other two are capturing the market on diesel owners and people who otherwise would be undertowing with current vehicle.
Ford and dodge I think played it right they built something that somebody always wanted a truck that gets great MPG and can tow almost as much as a 3/4 ton gasser. While GM built what peopled needed. Which is fine but the other two are capturing the market on diesel owners and people who otherwise would be undertowing with current vehicle.
09-06-2012 | 08:01 AM
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What cave have you been hiding in? GM has a 400+ hp 6.2 in a half ton that's rated at 10,600. I saw a report not to long ago where a magazine compared the best Chevy Diesel to the Best Ford and even though the Ford was rated with higher hp, the Chevy beat the Ford pulling an 18,000lb trailer through the mountains by a full 20 minutes. I have a brother-in-law that owns a landscape company and has some heavy equipment he tows around. He's had Ford and Dodges and finally just bought a GMC 3/4 ton. He said there is no comparison the GMC out tows anything he's had before.
Again I didnt mention the 6.2l as that is not the standard. But Ford has a 6.2L as well. But really these engines are waste Dodge 5.7 hemi produces just as much power and my Eb will out tow the 6.2l anyday. So really a mute point.
