Yes, follow the pipe.

I think that looks even better!

Just make it so you can put the 2-3 inch padded strip along the top as your passengers will want to rest their arm on top of it.

Your boat is gonna look great!

Thanks,,, I hope it look good..

the sides are just foam now.. and 1/2" thick once glassed the top edge will be 1" thick... I did run a 2" strip across the front but I do not want the sides to over hang the interior side panels....

the front slope has a lot more curve to now I will try to up load some photos today...

Looking great!

Looking good!!

Mine is near completion, check it out

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...0&l=58f95724e3

wow I only looked at the first page

"Looks like your close to paint and power.... like the window mod did you close the deck hatch? I dig the clean look of the factory size molded window. I have seen some 20's with window's in the same color of the boat and it's kinda that same look. I have not seen it molded in factory aria and size. I thought it may look cool molded like that and i do like it very much.. nicer looking than the color matched glass and i like that style so think yours will look real nice painted.. what color are you thinking for paint?"


very slick...dig that molded out board bracket... your a lot closer then I thought after a second look... LOL

Yeah, people have laughed at some of Phil's 20s for having the big tabs, saying it's a "little overkill", but it's really funnier to see how little those people know about 20 Cigarettes.

I wish I had the long tabs on mine at times, and will probably put them on at some point. On the pad bottom, it's nice to run the tabs at even on the boat for exactly one of the reasons you mentioned, to make the boat feel like it's longer. I can run my 20 in rougher water without using tab, but I have to run faster. If I just want to cruise in it, I like the way it rides better with a little tab. The longer tab makes it ride that much better.

I never thought any thing Phil did to a 20' cig was funny...

I did read some posts about bow steer with alu sbc engines.. The posts I read seemed to do more with what guy's were just thinking, going by the way that big block and small block boats sit in the water parked, rather than any thing first hand... they are all O/D boats most running black hawk's for the most part so I think the x is not the same as a bravo 1, prop maybe closer to the water line but not at hi as a tru surface drive keeping it below the transom. I think the drive hangs back further that may change the balance giving more bow lift. . the add distance of the black hawk and the below transom thrust point of the prop may give the 20 crazy bow lift with out the tabs... the tabs may also give the boat a sort of transom near the prop and help surface the prop?

As far as extending my transom for an arneson. I think it a bad idea. the boat may be too balanced and have trouble planing,,, I think a stand off box in the molded off the transom may be a real good idea as moving as much of the lbs back will only help.... but it have to over hang the transom edge not be a planing surface... still thinking.

I wasn't trying to imply that YOU were laughing, and I have rarely disliked the ideas Phil puts into his boats as well. I apologize if my post read that way.

I havne't had any bow steer on my 20. Granted, I don't have the biggest tabs, but mine are the next size down. They really make a difference when it's too choppy to run them all the way up.

no it didn't read like that, I know what you were saying..

I had my eye on a set of nos 32" k-planes but do not know how the boat will act with a surface drive. just do not want to lay out $$$ till I run the boat...

Maybe i made a mistake but i went with the 280's because first, i got a decent price on them and second i really didnt know that little extra tab length on the big ones would really make a noticable difference. I could diffentely be wrong but i know the 280's will make a huge difference compared to what i have now. Ill be runnin hard on the tabs friday no matter what the water condition is