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mmb 08-26-2014 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4177939)
As I've said in the past with SKRAMERS boat not selling in the low 40's that puts this one as a "20's" boat.

SKRAMERS Cafe is for sale? This is one nice boat for $40K!!! WOW.

Full Force 08-26-2014 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 4177946)
SKRAMERS Cafe is for sale? This is one nice boat for $40K!!! WOW.

Was a couple years ago, not now

Full Force 08-26-2014 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4177943)
is that the white one with red stripe?? my buddy had a agreement with the seller to come up from florida and buy that boat. he was booking his airfare and got a call that the boat is gonna be sold to the sellers buddy and got a sorry. couple days later he gets a call and says its for sale again. poor guy couldnt get airfare quick enough i guess

if I sold everything people said they would buy I would be loaded! I am a deposit kinda guy, have yet to have one fall through after a deposit was sent...

88bullet 08-26-2014 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4177953)
if I sold everything people said they would buy I would be loaded! I am a deposit kinda guy, have yet to have one fall through after a deposit was sent...

it was a verbal agreement but i guess in this world that isnt worth sh!t either. there are a lot more fire sales out there anyway

mmb 08-26-2014 08:10 AM

I can count on 1 hand the amount of Real Estate transactions I have had fall through in the last 7 years after taking the escrow deposit. IF someone if willing to put a deposit they are VERY Serious.

boatnt 08-26-2014 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 4177976)
I can count on 1 hand the amount of Real Estate transactions I have had fall through in the last 7 years after taking the escrow deposit. IF someone if willing to put a deposit they are VERY Serious.

Yes true, but they would walk away if the home inspection did not go well, or at least they would renegotiate the price,

kind of like putting a deposit on a boat and then arranging inspection, how do you think the deal would have worked out if the inspection showed the boat needed a transom,stringers ,and one engine had a rod knock?

mmb 08-26-2014 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 4177992)
Yes true, but they would walk away if the home inspection did not go well, or at least they would renegotiate the price,

kind of like putting a deposit on a boat and then arranging inspection, how do you think the deal would have worked out if the inspection showed the boat needed a transom,stringers ,and one engine had a rod knock?

Well My only answer to that is if your selling a pile of $hit.. You know what you have long before you put it up for sale.

boatnt 08-26-2014 10:06 AM

True, but maybe you do not know that you have a pile of $hit ,
so what as a seller do you do, take the money that's in front of you, or do you wait for someone to do the inspection and then find out?

besides we all know most of the time the inspections pay for them selves, the inspector finds something to justify his fee/time so that usually comes out of the sellers pocket.

Interceptor 08-26-2014 10:14 AM

I think most boat owners know what's wrong with their boats. The survey results may cause the owner to show a scripted suprised facial expression and his saying 'really?".
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glassdave 08-26-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4177943)
is that the white one with red stripe?? my buddy had a agreement with the seller to come up from florida and buy that boat. he was booking his airfare and got a call that the boat is gonna be sold to the sellers buddy and got a sorry. couple days later he gets a call and says its for sale again. poor guy couldnt get airfare quick enough i guess


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4177966)
it was a verbal agreement but i guess in this world that isnt worth sh!t either. there are a lot more fire sales out there anyway

yes it is that boat, sorry about your friends dealings. I hate to say it but no, verbal means not-ta, i understand you may know him and take him at his word but a seller simply cannot, not in this day and age. The seller is a friend of mine and a pretty good guy, he has had this up for sale for a few years now with it being "sold" countless times. Cash in hand has to take a front seat. Again sorry for your friend in that he was not able to get at it quicker it is a very nice boat to say the least.

88bullet 08-26-2014 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4178065)
yes it is that boat, sorry about your friends dealings. I hate to say it but no, verbal means not-ta, i understand you may know him and take him at his word but a seller simply cannot, not in this day and age. The seller is a friend of mine and a pretty good guy, he has had this up for sale for a few years now with it being "sold" countless times. Cash in hand has to take a front seat. Again sorry for your friend in that he was not able to get at it quicker it is a very nice boat to say the least.


no hard feelings on my end at all. it was a beautiful boat at a screaming deal. im the one that told him about the boat when he was up visiting from florida during the buffalo poker run. i spoke with the owner a few times about the boat. he was a very nice guy. its a shame he had to sell it.

315duramax 08-27-2014 06:12 PM

not trying to bring this thread back, but some personal issues arose today and i need cash bad to help my dad.. if there is anyone seriously interested in the boat, message me your best offer. i dont have time to wait out for top dollar.. someone might be able to get this boat for a song. NO, nothing has happened with the boat still runs awesome, i just need to move the boat, like with in the next 2 weeks.

can call me direct at 315-247-3146

88bullet 08-27-2014 06:24 PM

Sorry to hear. Good luck with the sale

jeff32 08-27-2014 09:36 PM

Sad to hear... At least you had time to enjoy it a little ride!!!

315duramax 08-27-2014 10:40 PM

Ya I got my eye on a few others. He just needs some cash for a potential big business deal and if I can help him out I'm going to. After the price drop my phones off the hook. But first with cash takes it. Will deliver to anywhere as we'll

phragle 08-27-2014 10:56 PM

so its a buisness deal? from the original tone of your plea post it sounded like something bad had happened, like you needed to buy your dad a kidney from tijauna or Guido was comming to break his knees from a gambling debt...

Good luck with the sale, you did put a lot of work into it.

phragle 08-27-2014 11:11 PM

so its a buisness deal? from the original tone of your plea post it sounded like something bad had happened, like you needed to buy your dad a kidney from tijauna or Guido was comming to break his knees from a gambling debt...

Good luck with the sale, you did put a lot of work into it.

315duramax 08-27-2014 11:29 PM

Haha no kidney. It's just kind of a make it or loose everything kind of deal. I can build another boat down the line. So if I can sell it and help him out I'm going too. Just need to see who is serious now a days.

Full Force 08-28-2014 04:40 AM

Sounds like another story to me.... Dude just list and sell the boat, no BS we are not stupid.... Just. Be honest about stuff.

Yamaha24 08-28-2014 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4179349)
Sounds like another story to me.... Dude just list and sell the boat, no BS we are not stupid.... Just. Be honest about stuff.


Agreed 100%!!!

boatnt 08-28-2014 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4179349)
Sounds like another story to me.... Dude just list and sell the boat, no BS we are not stupid.... Just. Be honest about stuff.

finally you and I agree on something,lol

Full Force 08-28-2014 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 4179373)
finally you and I agree on something,lol

Lol I can see right past all this, if he needed to actually sell it fast he would list at market value, 29,000 and take 25,000... That's what it's worth.... It's a gem result painted cafe that's it...

boatnt 08-28-2014 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4179324)
so its a buisness deal? from the original tone of your plea post it sounded like something bad had happened, .

Yep that's what I thought also,

just list the ad and if someone wants your boat they will call and make you a offer,
nobody cares about a sad story,trust me

Sick Stinger 08-28-2014 11:01 AM

The sad story makes them kick you in the balls more. Smell blood attac of course. I do it all the time. Stories get you less money then just up and up.

Wildman_grafix 08-28-2014 11:04 AM

So what would the price be, 20k? Trailer didn't look that good but hard to see in the cell phone pictures.

No I am not interested just Curious.

Sick Stinger 08-28-2014 12:30 PM

30 lot of work, good scheme , decent interior but new. Still a cig still a 35 foot boat

Full Whack 08-28-2014 11:14 PM

My offer stands at 19k.. ;)

Yamaha24 09-30-2014 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4179375)
Lol I can see right past all this, if he needed to actually sell it fast he would list at market value, 29,000 and take 25,000... That's what it's worth.... It's a gem result painted cafe that's it...

I have really missed this thread, it has been kind of boring around here for the past month.

This popped up today. http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o59150-en.html Cafe's for sale everywhere :party-smiley-004:

Wildman_grafix 09-30-2014 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 4179589)
30 lot of work, good scheme , decent interior but new. Still a cig still a 35 foot boat

Seems he agrees with you Sick.

Full Force 09-30-2014 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Yamaha24 (Post 4195237)
I have really missed this thread, it has been kind of boring around here for the past month.

This popped up today. http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o59150-en.html Cafe's for sale everywhere :party-smiley-004:

Funny everything I stated from beginning is happening...what would I know....??

Sick Stinger 09-30-2014 02:44 PM

Price is appropriate rite now weather it be spring summer winter that's the price point of the vessel.

donzi matt 09-30-2014 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4195253)
Funny everything I stated from beginning is happening...what would I know....??

Man, you sure do like to suck your own dick a lot, don't you?

If it isn't you telling Phil what a fukking idiot he is for trying to put this boat together and make a buck, it's you are the only person who can assemble your own big blocks "the right way"

Stop thumping on your chest so much. I think Phil gets the point. He put a ton of time and money into the boat and he is probably going to lose, but I don't think he needs some guy with a blown up Mistress and hard on for everything he does saying I told you so every chance you get.

It really makes you look like an assshole, and I doubt in real life you are.

Yamaha24 09-30-2014 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4179316)
Ya I got my eye on a few others. He just needs some cash for a potential big business deal and if I can help him out I'm going to. After the price drop my phones off the hook. But first with cash takes it. Will deliver to anywhere as we'll


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4179328)
Haha no kidney. It's just kind of a make it or loose everything kind of deal. I can build another boat down the line. So if I can sell it and help him out I'm going too. Just need to see who is serious now a days.


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4195253)
Funny everything I stated from beginning is happening...what would I know....??

FF ,I agree you were correct, always have, I just stayed out to avoid most of the drama, except for the times I just couldn't help myself..LOL..
I knew this is how this one would end, just was giving it time, anyone who has redone a boat knows the actual outcome and what it costs, if done correctly.

I wish any young entrepreneur the best of luck always have, same for Phil and his company "Upstate Powerboat", you only get one chance to make a good name for yourself.... I just know my boat would not end up in that shop, sorry Phil...With all the B.S. you sling around.... You will figure it out one day, hopefully it is not to late...

Good luck with the sale of this,"REDONE" Café...

Yamaha24 09-30-2014 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by donzi matt (Post 4195275)
Man, you sure do like to suck your own dick a lot, don't you?

If it isn't you telling Phil what a fukking idiot he is for trying to put this boat together and make a buck, it's you are the only person who can assemble your own big blocks "the right way"

Stop thumping on your chest so much. I think Phil gets the point. He put a ton of time and money into the boat and he is probably going to lose, but I don't think he needs some guy with a blown up Mistress and hard on for everything he does saying I told you so every chance you get.

It really makes you look like an assshole, and I doubt in real life you are.

LOL, geez this is really a sensitive topic. I really do not think FF is thumping on his chest. Nobody is faulting Phil for trying to make a buck, its the FUKING B.S that flies around it is all B.S. you know I know everyone who reads this thread knows it only FF is the only one with big enough balls to say something....LOL.. .:bsflag:

Full Force 09-30-2014 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4124294)

its really not too hard to not tell these guys to eff off because once the boat is done, on or close to time frame AND my budget, none of them will have anything to say. my budget is right on track and i stand to make a 5 figure pay check easy.

Seems that way..... Funny how that statement changed...

Full Force 09-30-2014 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by donzi matt (Post 4195275)
Man, you sure do like to suck your own dick a lot, don't you?

If it isn't you telling Phil what a fukking idiot he is for trying to put this boat together and make a buck, it's you are the only person who can assemble your own big blocks "the right way"

Stop thumping on your chest so much. I think Phil gets the point. He put a ton of time and money into the boat and he is probably going to lose, but I don't think he needs some guy with a blown up Mistress and hard on for everything he does saying I told you so every chance you get.

It really makes you look like an assshole, and I doubt in real life you are.

Phil told me from day one I had no clue... He was gonna show all us that doubted him...

Never said I am the only one that can do my engines right but when I can do it myself why pay someone else?

Full Force 09-30-2014 03:35 PM

I am actually not a dick at all in life, just hate when people bs all the time and call out on it, it's ok I can take it... Anyone who knows me knows otherwise I am always willing to help out, I tried to help him in beginning and he was a dick to me and many others and gonna show us... Well... Myself and others were right we all been there I sink way too much into my old Baja and learned a ton... But I always took advice from the vets

cig92 09-30-2014 04:04 PM

ff, the horse has been dead for some time now, just giving you a heads up, you can stop beating it now. do yourself a favor and find another thread to show your expertise on since everyone on this one already knows how intelligent you are. just out of curiosity, what was your first power boat and how old were you?

Full Force 09-30-2014 04:07 PM

20 foot sea ray, early 20's I didn't borrow daddy's money like he did, if you think he bought all that on his own your mistaken....inforgot he's got it all figured out since he is 19 with a cig, having that boat at that age don't make you all that..especially telling
Others you are gonna show them and tell them to stuff it, funny how done guys are jumping on his cock after everything he said has not gone as planned... I will leave it be that's fine, at least I didn't give in and kiss his ass, if I see him I would buy him beer for efforts... But don't tell me he's making
Money on this when he's clearly not and borrowed the money to buy it that's pretty clear here

Yamaha24 09-30-2014 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by cig92 (Post 4195307)
ff, the horse has been dead for some time now, just giving you a heads up, you can stop beating it now. do yourself a favor and find another thread to show your expertise on since everyone on this one already knows how intelligent you are. just out of curiosity, what was your first power boat and how old were you?

Actually I am the a hole who restarted this thread after reading his ad in the OSO classifieds. WTF... really.... So feel free to give me some chet to... I can take it..

As for my first boat didn't get until I was 23, Which was a 28' Nova 3, so Phil had one before me......I grew up on the water and was able to use me Pop's 28ss whenever I needed:ernaehrung004: until I bought the Nova 3.....

Probably should have just left this one alone boredom got the best of me today...


P.S......You own a lot of really neat boats!:party-smiley-048:


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