I come up with 4 years,,,but whatever.:p

THE PARTY IS ON !!!!

Is this thread about the current and future price of boats or do we have to sit and listen about how great Finland and Russia are? Why someone would wish ill upon the U.S. is beyond me. If we go down were taking most others with us.

Back on subject. We will all sit and watch the massive deflation for the next year. KBB has started adjusting prices weekly instead of monthly due to the rate of decent on used car values. We will all wait for the drop to bottom out before buying. About the time it hits bottom in a year of so we will then see massive inflation and everyting will be too expensive. 2011-2012 we will see some normalcy in the economy. I am sitting here at my energy trading desk and what I see going on right this moment and whats coming up make me want to lean over and throw up in my garbage can. Homes down another 15-20%, cars 30-40% and boats 40-50%.

Just my 2 rubles

BAC level will be to high to remember the last year.:D

A-if its so great move there

b- it's probably not prolly

c-genius europeans bought the majority of the bankrupt subprime paper and most of our other debt. Because you so smart.

d-I'ved been to St Petersburg and russian women need a couple hygiene lessons-even the strippers are gross.

Ive been wondering why it took 7 pages for someone to ask this question. One of the only things I remember about studying the scandinavian countries is Finland having one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
:eek::rolleyes:

That can't be the case - haven't you read the last 6 pages of Finnish Propoganda?:rolleyes:

Take home only 40% of your wages?? That hardly makes it worth getting up in the morning....

I believe MikeFin is same guy that was drummed off of boatfreaks and S&F for his political propoganda.

everyone likes to see the biggest toughest guy get beat up every once in a while. :rolleyes:

American bashing is a sport in most other parts of the world including Canada.

Not a sport that I like to be invoilved in. :(

Although there is a problem in American culture where people feel like they need to have things they cant afford just because some moron celebrity on Cribs has it.

In Canada, if you cant afford it, you dont have it. Or should I say CANT have it because of our banks lending policies.

My family is pretty wealthy but we drive our trucks for 10-15 years. We dont wear gold watches and stuff. We dont let our women go buy ridiculous clothes, put additions on the house, finance things, we look for good deals on steaks and buy the 2 liter pepsi because it is cheaper, etc, etc ,etc.

THe funny thing is, and I was talking to my girlfriend about this the other day, most people who arent rich think multi millionaires live these crazy lavish lifestyles. Well, I can tell you from my fathers way of life, not all people with money live like that. Most are quite the opposite. My dad has his car collection but he refuses to buy jeans anywhere but walmart, wont spend money on a decent steak and complains about a breafast costing more than 6 bucks (canadian:cool-smiley-011:).

The best rich to be isnt possesion rich it is cash rich.

Yah I am sure OIL had alot more to do with Nazi's being hated by the USA and Russia than them killing 6 million jews and another few million Ukrainians and Poles and other Slavic people not to mention handicapped, sick, old and other 'non desireables).


Leave the Nazi adoration elsewhere.

[quote] Leave the Nazi adoration elsewhere dickhead.

Ditto!

then Finland....it is going to be a new colony and settled with African Americans from the penal system.

That's Funny!! ar15meister....:drink::food-smiley-007:

"We dont let our women go buy ridiculous clothes"

WOW, are you in a sect or something? Hey, it's 2008 now, even in Canada I think

I am with you about the other things

Mange

hahaha

Yah that came out wrong...lol

I meant to say 'the girls, of their own free will, do not buy expensive clothes (in order to not upset the great leader)'

Hahahaha lol

one more thing....

Russian women are HOT. Especially the strippers.

Whoever said they arent obviously didint have a very good tour guide. You arent supposed to ask the old lady wearing the baboushka making the cabbage rolls for a lap dance and then complain that she smells like garlic and vodka.

Not Bragging just mentioning that the Colleges are free for the eligible and the basic healthcare also for those who need it.
Ther´s a difference.

My income taxe rate is 30% as we speak.

Hold It, I DO NOT WISH ILL upon US ,,, just have wondered and mentioned and been comparing some issues Americans have hard to understand or admit.

And seems I´m quite spot on with certain people.

Agree on that one... just an hour ago I talkde with some truck Owner operators and as it looks right now maybe the whole 2009 will look quite slow but not dead over here at least and some of us predicted that it will pick up and actually do some good in the businesses that some take a dive.

What does any of this shi! have to do with the price of a cigarette ???????????

I think Mikeyfin was saying that if are top boat builders like Cig sold world wide are economy would be better. I don't think thats going to help much at this point except for a few hundred people.

Well If I´m mistaken for Bashing America sorry...
That´s not my intention but to WAKE UP some Americans.
OK I may sound harsh, some might even think if I happen to admit Germans have some good qualities and´haven´t been treated right Make me a Nazi ?
You Might look up the Bombings of Dresden... or the fact that there´s undetonated Bombs found in Germany every week even nowadays, on Civilian sites.
Think the German people or any for the matter have deserved it.
Americans can only relate with something like that remotely with the Oklahoma Bombing and 911.


If you think I´m a Nazi patronizer I think you should´ve known what kinda treatment Hitler got over here even thou he let us buy their guns and be their ally ( so a history lesson again)
You can call A Finn a Cold Willed patriot but a Nazi and a German patronizer never.
We patronize even the Swedish Monarchy more and you might find out why if you know history.

Come to think of it my family is rich in some peoples eyes but usually I see my dad at home walking with my old clothes that I´ve left 20yrs ago while leaving home.
I don´t see him rich at all..he´s usually it seems short on cash constantly or at least complains about it and drives and old beaters despite all the posessions.

Henry Ford was quite shall we say not a big spender...
Rockefellers had worn out sheets cut out and the good parts sewn together...
That from times when USA was truly No.1 and yes those were prolly ( probably to the illiterate) great times for the normal citizen.

Hmmm I wouldn´t like to be that Finns boss... unless I´d have a fetish for soups only or nosebleeds...
Come to think of it I had one stubborn boss once... he locked himself in his room for one week once.

And yes tommorrow I´ll start my 1000 c.i. at 0500 a.m.
:drink:

You guys have been so busy today bashing each other that I don't even think I will bother to catch up today.

IMO Cigarettes are still way overpriced. If they take a 50% price cut inthe used market, then they will be about right. :evilb::party-smiley-004::evilb:

Like I said... AMONG other things.

Oil plays a big part in politics, at least for USA in their foreign policy it seems.
So keen to fight for it oneway or another.

A History lesson once again.

Regarding antisemitism, fact is jews were persecuted allover in the 30´s and at least as much in Russia got holocausted but not as systematically and yes it not much talked about as they were on the winning team.

USA also was hostile in the 30´s against them, Remember the S.S. St Louis Or one Henry Fords book called the International Jew ?

Sad but true.

Name some powerboats that are half the price of Cigarettes on the showroom floor?
One Arrow 830 from Sweden comes to my mind.

And No I don´t think they are overpriced and I just finished at 12 hour workday :D
I just can´t afford brand new Cigarettes.

First,
you are obviously insinuating that we are in Iraq for their oil. We've been there since 2003. Show me one shred of evidence how we have benefited an ounce from their oil supplies.

Second,
I'm not sure what qualifies you to be giving history lessons? Innovation is what defines America, not a few people you see on TV wearing "bling". Who first took flight? Who invented the microchip? Who designed the first accurate laser guided missile? Who is about to unveil the world's first unmanned fighter jet?

Who do you think is going to come up with the answer to reliance on oil?

If a history lesson teaches us anything, the answer will be the United States of America.

"That´s not my intention but to WAKE UP some Americans."

No offense but Americans really dont care what someone from Finland, an internationally irrelevant country, has to say.


"Think the German people or any for the matter have deserved it.
Americans can only relate with something like that remotely with the Oklahoma Bombing and 911."

Yes the German's did deserve it. They elected a government that systematically killed and relocatred 6 million Jews, millions of Ukrainians and slavs and people knew exactly what they were doing. They didnt think that all of their jewish neighbors 'just happened to up and move one day'. Get real. To compare that to Oklahoma and 911 is laughable at best and shows that you indeed are a Nazi sympathizing, moral relativist. There is no room for moral relativism in this debate that YOU started.

"Not Bragging just mentioning that the Colleges are free for the eligible and the basic healthcare also for those who need it."

While you give us all your free history lessons maybe you could help us understand how an overtaxed country has brainwashed you into thinking college and healthcare are FREE? In Canada the only people who get free healthcare are people who dont work and dont pay taxes. The rest of us get over priced, mediocre healthcare that is administered by the biggest bunch of hacks available (the government).

Have you been following your thread? :drink:

Finland doesnt have the same immigration as the USA does. If you look at the amount of illiterate people and then see how many of them are 'traditional' americans (i.e. white) you will have a better idea of the facts.

Skewing the facts to serve your purposes of bashing Americans and calling them stupid isnt going to make you too many friends on this board.

Maybe we can go with my original plan and send Mayflower #2 over to Finland with all the brothas and habib and wing wang wong and they can shack up with you and maybe you can intruduce your sister to Leroy?

Then we will see how much you love your 'free' healthcare and welfare and college when Leroy is the one getting it and his only job is to sit around and do nothing but complain about YOU.

Gimme a break. People in most countries, especially in Europe, have no idea about the way things are over here because you guys have such strict immigration controls in compariosn to North America.

lol:party-smiley-004:

I will stop...hard to sit here reading this crap and not respond thought isnt it......

[QUOTE=ar15meister;2763680]

Maybe we can go with my original plan and send Mayflower #2 over to Finland with all the brothas and habib and wing wang wong and they can shack up with you and maybe you can intruduce your sister to Leroy?

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Now we are there again. In the north europe contries it's 2008 and grown up sisters use to make their own decisions

[QUOTE=Mange;2763685]Mange you are a ball buster eh......:D

In North America sisters make their own decision unless that decision is to bring Leroy around the house in which case Smith and Wesson gets involved.

Who says USA is relevant. It makes it self that way without anyone asking.


When the jews where being holocausted Hitler was already a Dictator so no-one in Germany could stop him even if they wanted to..and believen me there was Germans who did , just didn´t dare.
Just like no-one dared to confront Bush Jr. either despite him being less than popular.

And how did Hitler become a Dictator
Do You Imply he got voted ?
GET REAL.
If Hindenburg would´ve not died Hitler would´ve never become a Dictator.
NEVER.. there was people like Rommel ( Not a member of NSDAP) ready to overthrow that madman.


I use private medicare myself as it´s taxdeductable...so can´t speak much of the mediocre basic healthcare I ´ve used it before but not anymore.
Regarding College education yes it´s free for the student If he stays here then he´ll pay for it later in taxes.
But you´re right there´s seldom free lunches.

Who have said thay you´ve succeeded in the mission?


Massproduction defines US of A and the immigrants making it possible.

ummm......Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor..........

National Socialists had the mosts votes in the Reichstag....37%.....

therefore he was elected democratically.



P.S. Do compare a man like President Bush to Hitler is nonsense. Bush may not be the best president and may have made mistakes but he is nothing like that monster. You just invalidate yourself further and further Mikey my man.

The Traditional Americans ain´t certainly WHITE.
Thats a FACT. Not the Traditional Canucks either.
But Finns are.

[quote]
Skewing the facts to serve your purposes of bashing Americans and calling them stupid isnt going to make you too many friends on this board.

Maybe we can go with my original plan and send Mayflower #2 over to Finland with all the brothas and habib and wing wang wong and they can shack up with you and maybe you can intruduce your sister to Leroy?
[quote]

Sounds like your a racist or a realist...

But yes plese do...we have a place for them... LapLand is wide open for them :D

Believe me we have those same problems already and therefore we are strict.
We take care of our own first.
Not Vice Versa like some Non_Mentioned Superpower where the Not Traditional where left on their own after a Hurricane
And even Finland had to send accommodations there...

Ps Have you looked up on Australian immigration Laws ?

I think there is alot more that defines America than 'mass production by imigrants' but who I am just some stupid hoser:rolleyes:

What 'defines' Finland aside from mouthy hockey players with funny names? (at least thats all I know or care to know)

[QUOTE=Mange;2763685]Well Malmö is a Prime example...

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were privy to our national strategic planning sessions. The floor is yours Mr. Senator...





Ironic that you are typing that on a computer with technology developed in the US but manufactured outside of the US. What makes you an expert on what defines the USA?

[QUOTE=ar15meister;2763686]So apparently Leroy ain´t shooting blanks as he got you so ticked off...:evilb: