42' vs toyota
#212
Your first paragraph isn't by coincidence, or that they just "got smart" on how to make ****. I'll post this, again for the third time, because you clearly haven't read it: http://www.uwsa.com/issues/trade/japanyes.html
#213
So your problem is that the Japanese home market is "closed" to US manufacturers? Have you ever been to Japan? (I have.) There's simply no room for American sized cars. And even if you tried to sell small American cars there, the market is tiny compared to the US. And, the safety regulations are different, so major changes would have to be made to sell US cars there. So, low volume, major engineering changes, plus shipping costs = no profit. Your point?
Why is this so hard, why do you want to defend the Japanese?
I get it not everyone understands this industry, it is incredibly complex, global, and regulated. But if you have next to no knowldedge of it, little global busniess acumen, and maybe just little sense period why keep posting crap like you have a clue? Oh yeah, it's the internet, we're all experts.
What is your job, let me tell you about your industry? You a pilot, well I've rode in a plane so let me tell you about building a plane cuz I've been in one. Your in construction, let me tell you what you're doing wrong, I swung a hammer once. That's how these auto discussions go anyways, everyone's an expert
#215
Can you read? They close their market so you can't sell there no matter what you have, it is a huge market where you can't sell cars if you aren't from there. You just described Europe as well, guess what GM and Ford have been selling there for decades and with times of great success. You design the cars for the market. There laws don't keep out foreigners specifically. When you have a closed market you can recover your development costs and sell elsewhere for lower prices, beating the local guys. Toss a huge currency advantage in like they had and the result became academic.
Why is this so hard, why do you want to defend the Japanese?
I get it not everyone understands this industry, it is incredibly complex, global, and regulated. But if you have next to no knowldedge of it, little global busniess acumen, and maybe just little sense period why keep posting crap like you have a clue? Oh yeah, it's the internet, we're all experts.
What is your job, let me tell you about your industry? You a pilot, well I've rode in a plane so let me tell you about building a plane cuz I've been in one. Your in construction, let me tell you what you're doing wrong, I swung a hammer once. That's how these auto discussions go anyways, everyone's an expert
Why is this so hard, why do you want to defend the Japanese?
I get it not everyone understands this industry, it is incredibly complex, global, and regulated. But if you have next to no knowldedge of it, little global busniess acumen, and maybe just little sense period why keep posting crap like you have a clue? Oh yeah, it's the internet, we're all experts.
What is your job, let me tell you about your industry? You a pilot, well I've rode in a plane so let me tell you about building a plane cuz I've been in one. Your in construction, let me tell you what you're doing wrong, I swung a hammer once. That's how these auto discussions go anyways, everyone's an expert

And before you lunge, let me just say that some practices by American companies overseas would make your hair stand on end.
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#216
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Read every post here, there is no justification for buying foreign, bottom line...u live in America buy American I've owned nothing but Chevys all my life and would never buy anything else my dad bought a Toyota and I didn't talk to him for almost a year cause the argument over it and now a short time later he regrets it and not cause the argument
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I can't tell you how much time I spent over there working on the SGM products.
Don't forget GM owns the old Korean Daewoo (GmDat), Holden in Australia, Opel/ vectra in Europe,,, just to name a few.
RJ is right, it's a complex global business.
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Are you sure? Better check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Ram
Maybe assembled, but Dodge moved more jobs out of the country than any of the other big 3, mainly Mexico. GM moved tons of jobs to Canada, but not as many as Dodge.....but those don't count cause the profits are coming back here and doing what? I have listed all the global companies building factories here, and guess what?
If you read the wall street journal you will see that more global car manufactures likes Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Kia, and others plan to build more factories HERE! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...490039626.html
So explain to me again what is an American car? I forget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Ram
Maybe assembled, but Dodge moved more jobs out of the country than any of the other big 3, mainly Mexico. GM moved tons of jobs to Canada, but not as many as Dodge.....but those don't count cause the profits are coming back here and doing what? I have listed all the global companies building factories here, and guess what?
If you read the wall street journal you will see that more global car manufactures likes Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Kia, and others plan to build more factories HERE! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...490039626.html
So explain to me again what is an American car? I forget.

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So I got a little confused, and here is why http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Catera
The generations before the cts WAS just a rebadged Opel, my mistake. But my assumption is not unwarranted!!!
Still you believe I am a detractor of the big, but in fact I am a defender of my rights to purchase what I see value in.
I could no longer afford to drive a truck from the big 3, that's a fact. The down time and repair cost were eating me alive. I'd love to support you guys, and keep food on your table but I just can't anymore. I have it my best shot. You could leave the uaw and move to Texas, work in the no unionized tundra plant...then we wouldn't have these arguments.
The generations before the cts WAS just a rebadged Opel, my mistake. But my assumption is not unwarranted!!!
Still you believe I am a detractor of the big, but in fact I am a defender of my rights to purchase what I see value in.
I could no longer afford to drive a truck from the big 3, that's a fact. The down time and repair cost were eating me alive. I'd love to support you guys, and keep food on your table but I just can't anymore. I have it my best shot. You could leave the uaw and move to Texas, work in the no unionized tundra plant...then we wouldn't have these arguments.





