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axapowell 01-20-2010 09:25 AM

Rippem...You getting any of the snow back? Thinking of going to the Hill this weekend with the Winedown crew!

Dave

ThirdBird 01-20-2010 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Rippem (Post 3027773)
OK so sometimes it's not the other guy you gotta worry about :picard1: :traurig001:

Nope, I'm totally responsible for this one. It's an eye opener, let me tell ya.

I like to run, I like to run hard. But, I think my days of running that hard are over. Actually, I've been lucky several times. So, it's back to the 600 class where I don't feel like I have to try to race everyone. Of course, I know I can ram a 600 into a tree just like a 900, but it's the psychological part of it. No more chest-thumping for me.

But, that hot rod was a rush while it lasted!!!!! Never had a harder pulling, faster excellerating machine than that!!!

ThirdBird 01-20-2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3027403)
I like your description "it depends on when during the "event" we measure".

Being just slightly your senior, I can tell you that when you crash, as your years here begin to add up, the recovery time seems to stretch out exponentially. As does the "WTF" factor!!! :eek:

Some things in life, such as Jackie Chans and trees, are best left to the young bucks. Not good! ;)

You are soooooo right!!!

As for leaving it to the young bucks, I always thought my "experience" was my edge. I can (could) run with the best of them. But, not so much any more. The way I feel right now, I can't even entertain the thought of racing along those trails anymore. I think it's been a life-altering episode!!

Rippem 01-20-2010 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by ThirdBird (Post 3028269)
I like to run, I like to run hard. But, I think my days of running that hard are over. Actually, I've been lucky several times. So, it's back to the 600 class where I don't feel like I have to try to race everyone. Of course, I know I can ram a 600 into a tree just like a 900, but it's the psychological part of it. No more chest-thumping for me.

been there done that. big twins and the big triples. nothing pulled upstairs like the 8/900 Suzuki triples or the 809 type Rotax triple. Thay were a BLAST!

all around happiness for me has been found on 110-120 HP 600 you dont have to be carrying big vehicle speed to have fun with the powerband.

Honestly my tricked out 75HP 550 Rev is ALOT of fun it'll run 77-78 on the trail everyday, I've seen 84 repeatedly on the road or ice. It's very consistent until it gets really warm out.
Low snow or rock hard conditions? Gotta take the shoulder for 10 miles? NO PROBLEM! No cooling issues.
That sled is all about ride and handling. It is so easy to ride hard because you don't get fatiqued hanging on to it and there is no fear of grabbing too much at the wrong time.

and it keeps your feet warm! Love floggin' the hair dryer!

ThirdBird 01-21-2010 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Rippem (Post 3028369)
and there is no fear of grabbing too much at the wrong time.

That's where I want to be. Although it's fun to grab-and-go, the smallest misjudgement and you're in trouble.

I'm not really a fan of fans, but smaller CC's is definitely in my future.

Hey, I'm a grandfather now. I should act like it!!!

Hot Stepper 01-21-2010 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by ThirdBird (Post 3028690)
That's where I want to be. Although it's fun to grab-and-go, the smallest misjudgement and you're in trouble.

I'm not really a fan of fans, but smaller CC's is definitely in my future.

Hey, I'm a grandfather now. I should act like it!!!

What act like a grandfather? I've been one for about 8 years and I aint changed just for that. If you feel that way you might want to check into the new Yamahas coming out, word has it they have electric power steering!!!!!! sounds like it's time for you to convert:drink:

RaggedEdge 01-21-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by ThirdBird (Post 3028690)

Hey, I'm a grandfather now. I should act like it!!!




Well in the long run the rewards, as I'm sure you are begining to see now Gramps, are overwhelmingly in favor of just that!!! :drink:

Maybe you and I could find a pair of restored 12-3 Bomers and take in the sites. :lolhit:

Sin_or_Swim 01-24-2010 11:47 AM

wow
 
Reading this makes me cringe. Next season is going to suck if they don't do something.

http://www.abay.com/alexandriabaynynews1562.htm

axapowell 01-24-2010 01:07 PM

Unreal. You would think that the docks would be looked at annually and repaired as needed. You know, a buget line item for the docks! This is the biggest parts of tourist activity. They are NUTZ if they don't fix it.

Dave

RaggedEdge 01-24-2010 05:53 PM

This has been hit on a couple times lately by the local news up here. In the TV interviews the "locals" claim they have a handle on it and it will be all "fixed" by spring. Personally I find it rather stupid that a community that depends on the river and all of us water rats for a living would let the only dock in town get this far gone. But then one only has to take a stroll down Main Street to see where things are going up there. If I treated all my real estate the same way I would be on welfare.

got twins ? 01-26-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Hot Stepper (Post 3028940)
What act like a grandfather? I've been one for about 8 years and I aint changed just for that. If you feel that way you might want to check into the new Yamahas coming out, word has it they have electric power steering!!!!!! sounds like it's time for you to convert:drink:

Hey guys .... Long time no talk too .....

As Al stated about the powersteering for Yamahas in 2011 it is true ..... I was in Old Forge this past weekend doing a last minute ride and met up with some factory reps from Yamaha and rode a 128" track with "powersteering" ..... it was awesome !!!
They also eluded to the fact there will be a 144" tipped up track available for the Apex with powersteering.
The idea behind this is acceleration and handling of a 121", comfort of a 136" and floatation of a 144" all in one track with powersteering ..... Now you can have as much front end ski pressure as you want allowing you to carve like crazy with little to no effort.

Whose your daddy now !!!!

Aside from that glad to see everyone is well ..... I have been wrapped up with finalizing my divorce buying a new house and dealing with business being slow ..... other then that it has been awesome !!!

When the friggin snow comes back let get back to riding ....

Rippem , Axa don't forget I have carte blanche of the place in Altmar, NY ....

Wednesday nights ... and Thursdays are great for me .... and some Sundays.

Talk to you soon !!!!

Jeff

axapowell 01-26-2010 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by got twins ? (Post 3032013)
Rippem , Axa don't forget I have carte blanche of the place in Altmar, NY ....

Wednesday nights ... and Thursdays are great for me .... and some Sundays.

Talk to you soon !!!!

Jeff


Name the days! Except the week of February 16-24 (Florida). I'm in. Just need a little heads up (like a day or so...). Hope the snow isn't too beat down after the rain yesterday. Looks like the Lake Effect machine is turning on this week! Yea!

Dave

axapowell 01-26-2010 02:39 PM

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Last weekend was Real good (before the rain) got in about 250 miles on Friday and Saturday with Pete K. form Wine Down!

Dave

RaggedEdge 01-26-2010 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by got twins ? (Post 3032013)

..... glad to see everyone is well ..... I have been wrapped up with finalizing my divorce buying a new house and dealing with business being slow ..... other then that it has been awesome !!!

Jeff



So the house we were talking about is a done deal? Congrats on that one!

Little Bro is having a reasonable winter so far, odd thing is it's still the trucks and SUV's that are carrying it, read that gas guzzlers just like before. Seems like they can't get the Ext-Cab trucks fast enough.

Hot Stepper 01-27-2010 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3032161)
So the house we were talking about is a done deal? Congrats on that one!

Little Bro is having a reasonable winter so far, odd thing is it's still the trucks and SUV's that are carrying it, read that gas guzzlers just like before. Seems like they can't get the Ext-Cab trucks fast enough.

Hey Pete,
I think you might find some reasoning for the higher sales of the big vehicles could be related to the new fuel effiencie regulations that are coming down the pipe. If you look at Fords future strategies you'll find that the good old V8 will be replaced with a twin turbo V6. I mentioned earlier I might have a little insight, here's a link to the project I've been working on for about a year and half http://www.epa.gov/otaq/climate/420r09020.pdf
On another side note the new Dodge Ram Diesels with the 6.1or6.2 replace the old reliable 5.9, again emission related changes starving the engine. A lot of the guys that haul will be looking at the older ones.

RaggedEdge 01-27-2010 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Hot Stepper (Post 3032919)
... I think you might find some reasoning for the higher sales of the big vehicles could be related to .....



When Mr. Green in his Prius with the stuck gas pedal is headed straight at you and the dumb azz has no clue what to do, at least you have some bulk around you!!! :eek: I'd hate to be a Toyota dealer today, can't sell 'em, can't even rent 'em.

Rippem 02-05-2010 06:59 PM

Ride It Like You Stole It From Somebody Who Stole It
 
:D so whadidya' think of that Dave?

axapowell 02-06-2010 08:08 AM

Unreal Wednesday and Thursday....Rip and Twins are some riding mo fo's! Hope I didn't hold either of you up....:evilb:

140 miles or so on Wednesday with Rip and around 180 miles on Thursday, with Twins.

Thursday between 9-3:30 with an hour for breakfast and an hour for an afternoon totty we averaged 47.5 mph!! :eek:

Twins will fill in the blanks! Had a blast! Do it again soon. Going to try to go locally (Cortland) today if there's some snow to be found!

Dave

RaggedEdge 02-25-2010 07:45 PM

Well as this thread is about to roll over to page three, a new all time low, I need to resurect it.


Any of you have a current mailing address for Got Twins?

Reason I ask is that in clearing out some chit, no offense here, to get ready for yet another remodeling phase on the commercial building I have come across a vintage pair of '88 and '89 Formula sales catalogs in primo condition :drink:. I would like to mail them out to Bird and Twins just for chits and grins, thought they might get a kick out of having them. I have Bird's mailing adress but I need Jeff's.

ThirdBird 02-27-2010 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3055328)
Well as this thread is about to roll over to page three, a new all time low, I need to resurect it.


Any of you have a current mailing address for Got Twins?

Reason I ask is that in clearing out some chit, no offense here, to get ready for yet another remodeling phase on the commercial building I have come across a vintage pair of '88 and '89 Formula sales catalogs in primo condition :drink:. I would like to mail them out to Bird and Twins just for chits and grins, thought they might get a kick out of having them. I have Bird's mailing adress but I need Jeff's.

Far out Pete, love to have one. I'm '89, Jeff is '88.

RaggedEdge 02-28-2010 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by ThirdBird (Post 3056717)
Far out Pete, love to have one. I'm '89, Jeff is '88.



The plus side of being a pack rat!

Down side, feeling compelled to sort thru one last time before the trip to the dumpster. :lolhit:

Now if I can just remember which one I put in your envelope.:confused:

ThirdBird 02-28-2010 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3056826)
Now if I can just remember which one I put in your envelope.:confused:

DOH!!!!!:eek:

With my case of CRS, I'm surprised I remember what year mine is.

got twins ? 03-03-2010 08:48 PM

Ragged,

Thanks for the brochure ..... it is in a lot better shape then one I have.

Looks like the snowmobiling season is going to end fairly quickly if this freak'in weather continues ....

That's ok I am ready for a change back to boating ....

Look out it's Jackie Chan time !!!!! :lolhit:

Thanks again !!!

Jeff

ThirdBird 03-05-2010 05:59 AM

Hey Pete,
Thank you for the vintage Formula brochure, it IS in mint shape. It'll go nicely into the factory three-ring binder that came with the boat. Very cool!!!

My oldest, Jessica, was quite enamored with your very nice hand writing on the envelope. Jess is into nice hand writing, just one of her idiosyncrasies. Of course, Samantha probably wrote that!!:p

ThirdBird 03-05-2010 06:02 AM

Jeff,
Having trouble getting free for a weekend. Been working Saturdays for 8 weeks now. No end in sight yet. Now, Julie is back working at the plant and she's doing Saturdays too. Not good!!! Good for the gas-stash though.

RaggedEdge 03-05-2010 11:38 AM

Jeff,
You're welcome, it's up to you to preserve the thing for the next 22 years. :drink:

RaggedEdge 03-05-2010 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by ThirdBird (Post 3060269)
Hey Pete,
Thank you for the vintage Formula brochure, it IS in mint shape. It'll go nicely into the factory three-ring binder that came with the boat. Very cool!!!

My oldest, Jessica, was quite enamored with your very nice hand writing on the envelope. Jess is into nice hand writing, just one of her idiosyncrasies. Of course, Samantha probably wrote that!!:p


More than welcome! However you are sworn to not disclose the slight error in my thinking on the 272 page! I can only assume it must have been a weak moment on my part. ;)

You can tell your daughter that it comes from my Mother, and thank her for having more faith in me than you did.

axapowell 03-08-2010 08:22 PM

With the warm weather...looks like it's time to change the Avatar back to something that relates to boating!! Unlike Bird, mine is still in one piece!

Had it going 117 mph (on the dream meter) across Oneida Lake on Saturday with Winedown behind me. That was the fastest I'd seen it yet! Thinking around 105-107 for real. Cooking to say the least! The lake was pretty smooth in the middle, rough around the edges from last weekends thaw and this weeks re-freeze.

Let's get this thread back on track...What has anyone done to slow their boat down for the season?

Bird, did you do anything to your bullets yet? Need a hand?

Let me know!

Dave

ext2gtx 03-09-2010 04:10 PM

slowed mine down alot with no motors,the best you will see out of my boat this summer is behind my truck,:eek:

andyt25 03-09-2010 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by ext2gtx (Post 3063611)
slowed mine down alot with no motors,the best you will see out of my boat this summer is behind my truck,:eek:

That sucks Mike I thought they just needed to be freshened up was there more bad than you thought . How did the paint come out

ext2gtx 03-09-2010 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by andyt25 (Post 3063691)
That sucks Mike I thought they just needed to be freshened up was there more bad than you thought . How did the paint come out

one person can only go so fast so im just going to take my time, it will get done just dont no when,i have the little boat if we want to go to the beach so no biggy.I think the lake is going to be low this year not much snow to melt off so we need a lot of rain.

andyt25 03-09-2010 06:52 PM

Yeah no point in rushing it if you need any help let me know I'm sure Steve would lend a hand too we've had enough motors out in the last few years we've had alot of practice

RaggedEdge 03-09-2010 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by axapowell (Post 3063000)
... Let's get this thread back on track...What has anyone done to slow their boat down for the season?

Dave



All for that, about time.

Figure it's slow enough, might have knocked a tenth or two off it with the couple extra coats of wax on the deck, might be a wash with the gell I buffed off though. :lolhit:

I am considering some additional gems in the prop collection, a man just can't have too many sets kicking around taking up space. I have a prop guy that seems to be real good at making fast props even slower. :eek: For a fee that is!

Curiosity here ..... How many seasonal Formula residents in the HBW Boathouse this season? Excluding 5P, I know he's a regular part season visitor.

RaggedEdge 03-09-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by ext2gtx (Post 3063736)
... one person can only go so fast

.




If you need someone to do them for you that is 100% trustworthy let me know. My friend that freshened up the 500's for me would treat you right, he know's his chit and will not do you wrong. He was more than reasonable on my deal, I never asked and actually expected a lot more based on what some people claim.

axapowell 03-09-2010 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3063744)
Figure it's slow enough, might have knocked a tenth or two off it with the couple extra coats of wax on the deck, might be a wash with the gell I buffed off though. :lolhit:

I'm adding more weight to the tank to slow it down some more and more 1st class Bling!! Should be cool...Everything has been rolling in UPS. I have to stop at the machince shop tomorrow and pick up a few more custom made goodies!! :drink:

Gonna turn the props back to "out" and see if I can still dock it too. That will shave off a couple too!


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3063744)
Curiosity here ..... How many seasonal Formula residents in the HBW Boathouse this season? Excluding 5P, I know he's a regular part season visitor.

I don't get it, what do you mean?

Dave

axapowell 03-09-2010 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3063754)
If you need someone to do them for you that is 100% trustworthy let me know. My friend that freshened up the 500's for me would treat you right, he know's his chit and will not do you wrong. He was more than reasonable on my deal, I never asked and actually expected a lot more based on what some people claim.

I won't mention any names, but didn't you have an excessive oil usage problem and VERY low oil pressure after that re-build?

Dave

RaggedEdge 03-09-2010 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by axapowell (Post 3063759)
I won't mention any names, but didn't you have an excessive oil usage problem and VERY low oil pressure after that re-build?

Dave



Not really, and they are still running like champs as built some three seasons later, and faster now with the shorties, so I hear. When you polish the crank to clean it up you will normally see a little less on the pressure gauge. Excepting a total lack of it, oil pressure in and of itself does not make an engine live longer. If you feel the need for a big number on the gauge they make high pressure pumps, they also make high volume pumps if you are so inclined, did neither. It's not how hard it is for the oil to move thru the engine but the fact that it does that really counts in the long run. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

RaggedEdge 03-09-2010 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by axapowell (Post 3063756)
I'm adding more weight to the tank to slow it down some more and more 1st class Bling!! Should be cool...Everything has been rolling in UPS. I have to stop at the machince shop tomorrow and pick up a few more custom made goodies!! :drink:

Gonna turn the props back to "out" and see if I can still dock it too. That will shave off a couple too!



I don't get it, what do you mean?

Dave



Bling is good.


Out is for amateurs! Not to mention, Slower! Might want to rethink this one, your bud Kelly is thinking you two might have a 600 shootout down in the Pond.


Simple question ........... You, 5P as a part seasoner, and other Flormula'ites? / or not? No hiddden adgenda here, just a question. Folks come, folks go, some folks come back, some folks don't.

axapowell 03-09-2010 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3063805)
...Excepting a total lack of it, oil pressure in and of itself does not make an engine live longer. If you feel the need for a big number on the gauge they make high pressure pumps, they also make high volume pumps if you are so inclined, did neither. It's not how hard it is for the oil to move thru the engine but the fact that it does that really counts in the long run. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

I'm not trying to start anything here, I just remember you fiddling around and mixing up your concoction of several types and weights of oil on the dock and complaining of how much oil it used...that's what I remember.

Dave

ext2gtx 03-09-2010 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3063754)
If you need someone to do them for you that is 100% trustworthy let me know. My friend that freshened up the 500's for me would treat you right, he know's his chit and will not do you wrong. He was more than reasonable on my deal, I never asked and actually expected a lot more based on what some people claim.

thanks for the offer Pete but im going to do it myself, i just decided that im going to take my time even if it takes all summer


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