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Sydwayz 01-26-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4063494)
So thats a 33 OUTLAW .. I had one too mine just didn`t have a step.

I can't figure out what you are referring to with this post. That is a 37' boat.

seafordguy 01-26-2014 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 4063155)
These pictures are comforting...as a young single guy I kinda fear the whole wife/kids thing somewhat because I think it could be the end of boating, but after seeing all these pics, apparently not!

It's a different kind of boating but just as fun. Both my boys were on the cig before they were two weeks old. One was 9days and one was 10 days......

ActiveThunder 01-26-2014 12:22 PM

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I started my son out early. I actually took a car seat and made a frame that dropped right in between the bolsters. As soon as we were on plane he was sound asleep.

And I better not hear one smart-azz comment about the picture.

Craney 01-26-2014 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4063236)
I'm sorry. It was implied, at least I believe, that I use polyester resin and plywood coupled with Autometer gauges.

AT was using full urethane stringers and transom before just about everybody. We have never used anything less that Hydrex pure vinylester resin and high density Divinycell coring and vacuum bagged. Never a hull failure, Ever. As far as Autometer gauges? We combine some Livorsi analog gauges with digital screens as well. I like it. I like to be able to see a red needle when I am running on my tachs, OP and temp gauges. But that is just me. I really have no use for a GPS.

The new 33 that will be at the Miami Show in 2 weeks will have 2 new Garmin 8210 GPSs with a 7" Vessel View full color Mercury display. These will be tied into a the new Fusion audio head unit which has bluetooth. Also the boat is equipped with a Nighthawk thermal night vision camera. So we can watch a DVD on the passenger dash at the same time stream Netflix on the driver's screen and see in the dark on the 7" Vessel view. But just in case I want to know what the heck is going on in the back we are putting in 2 oil pressure and 2 water temperature, good ol' Livorsi gauges to make it idiot-proof. Not sure if the gauges take it out of the high-tech arena. If so my bad.....They were all out of Autometers.

The new AT 37 Xcess will be on the finger pier in the Mercury display right next to the 36 Outerlimits. You can compare them side by side yourself.

I will have a cold Miller Lite in my hand right about 5:00. And if I have to take a leak I will simply stand up in the enclosed head and use an electric toilet. Oh, the comforts of home..... I love my beer.

Oh yeah, and Active Thunder is still in business after two decades with the same guy writing the checks. Unlike Baja, Fountain, Donzi, Sonic, Powerplay, Black Thunder, Apache, Powerquest, Wellcraft, etc.

Now I am simply selling my brand.

,

Are you sure you Never had a hull failure.

boatnt 01-26-2014 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4063236)
Oh yeah, and Active Thunder is still in business after two decades with the same guy writing the checks. Unlike Baja, Fountain, Donzi, Sonic, Powerplay, Black Thunder, Apache, Powerquest, Wellcraft, etc.

Now I am simply selling my brand.

,

I know I am going to get a lot of $hit for this but,,,let me start by saying I like my beer as well...
Powerquest in there heyday when Kevin owned them was putting out about 200 boats a year,,
Baja,,Fountain,,Donzi,,all very successful in there heyday and build a lot of boats,,,at some points a smart successful business owner asks himself is it time for me to take my money and get out or ,,Im I going to be happy with a couple of builds a year?
so maybe that is one of the reasons the companies you mentioned above have switched hands,,,

Now I have to admit I do NOT know much about A/T,,have seen a couple and they look to be a good boat,,
you should be proud you are in charge for over 20 years,,may I ask how many boats you produce a year??

Thanks

Orange quatro 01-26-2014 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 4063698)
I know I am going to get a lot of $hit for this but,,,let me start by saying I like my beer as well...
Powerquest in there heyday when Kevin owned them was putting out about 200 boats a year,,
Baja,,Fountain,,Donzi,,all very successful in there heyday and build a lot of boats,,,at some points a smart successful business owner asks himself is it time for me to take my money and get out or ,,Im I going to be happy with a couple of builds a year?
so maybe that is one of the reasons the companies you mentioned above have switched hands,,,

Now I have to admit I do NOT know much about A/T,,have seen a couple and they look to be a good boat,,
you should be proud you are in charge for over 20 years,,may I ask how many boats you produce a year??

Thanks

Not trying to jack the thread but who does own Baja? Does anybody know???

Orange quatro 01-26-2014 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 4063202)
I'm not sure which boat that would be but a 37 AT will run 75 with a pair of 496's and there is only a couple of those. The 525 boats run 83-85 and I don't think that is too bad. You have obviously not looked at the brand much to make the comparison to Baja as they have nothing in common. Now don't get me wrong as I have nothing against Baja but how do you compare a stock order old school straight bottom boat with a custom built boat with excellent craftsmanship and thier awesome hull.

Based on what your saying… a boat with twin 496's running about 75 mph, thats what the Baja's run and the ones with 525's also run in the 80's. Yes AT's are a custom build and I don't want to take anything away from that aspect of the boats, but Baja's are a nice fit and finish boat also. All I'm saying is that its almost the same performance as a Baja and there is nothing wrong with that.

Orange quatro 01-26-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4063236)
I'm sorry. It was implied, at least I believe, that I use polyester resin and plywood coupled with Autometer gauges.

AT was using full urethane stringers and transom before just about everybody. We have never used anything less that Hydrex pure vinylester resin and high density Divinycell coring and vacuum bagged. Never a hull failure, Ever. As far as Autometer gauges? We combine some Livorsi analog gauges with digital screens as well. I like it. I like to be able to see a red needle when I am running on my tachs, OP and temp gauges. But that is just me. I really have no use for a GPS.

The new 33 that will be at the Miami Show in 2 weeks will have 2 new Garmin 8210 GPSs with a 7" Vessel View full color Mercury display. These will be tied into a the new Fusion audio head unit which has bluetooth. Also the boat is equipped with a Nighthawk thermal night vision camera. So we can watch a DVD on the passenger dash at the same time stream Netflix on the driver's screen and see in the dark on the 7" Vessel view. But just in case I want to know what the heck is going on in the back we are putting in 2 oil pressure and 2 water temperature, good ol' Livorsi gauges to make it idiot-proof. Not sure if the gauges take it out of the high-tech arena. If so my bad.....They were all out of Autometers.

The new AT 37 Xcess will be on the finger pier in the Mercury display right next to the 36 Outerlimits. You can compare them side by side yourself.

I will have a cold Miller Lite in my hand right about 5:00. And if I have to take a leak I will simply stand up in the enclosed head and use an electric toilet. Oh, the comforts of home..... I love my beer.

Oh yeah, and Active Thunder is still in business after two decades with the same guy writing the checks. Unlike Baja, Fountain, Donzi, Sonic, Powerplay, Black Thunder, Apache, Powerquest, Wellcraft, etc.

Now I am simply selling my brand.

,

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Here is what I'm talking about. The cabin in my OL you can stand up in. This pic is from a Baja.[ATTACH=CONFIG]517219[/ATTACH]The Outerlimits has almost 6ft of headroom. So in my opinion the AT has a lot more similarities with the Baja. They run the same , they have the same amount of room in them, both really nice boats.Sorry pic didn't load correctly.

Drock78 01-26-2014 06:52 PM

The build quality of a Baja is not even even close to an AT. Performance #'s and room may be similar but that's about it. Rough water capabilities are not the same either.

Orange quatro 01-26-2014 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4063738)
The build quality of a Baja is not even even close to an AT. Performance #'s and room may be similar but that's about it. Rough water capabilities are not the same either.

I don"t agree. Both boats were hand built. Baja was owned by SeaRay and at the time were the industry leaders in both fit and finish, also Fountain owned the brand for a little while and they were no slouches. What part of Baja's don't you think is up to the quality?


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