Just Turbines
#71
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Jim is sending me some tig rod that is designed for this
i would think it would be something similar to this.
High-Performance Nickel Alloy X TIG Welding Rod. ERNiCrMo-2
TIG welding rod. AWS: A5.14-89 grade. Class: ERNiCrMo-2 SAE-
AMS 5798D.
Here is another crack. This is a stationary component but if left in its currentstate my assumption would be eventual contact or
rubbing against the rotor which sees 22,000 rpm.
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i would think it would be something similar to this.
High-Performance Nickel Alloy X TIG Welding Rod. ERNiCrMo-2
TIG welding rod. AWS: A5.14-89 grade. Class: ERNiCrMo-2 SAE-
AMS 5798D.
Here is another crack. This is a stationary component but if left in its currentstate my assumption would be eventual contact or
rubbing against the rotor which sees 22,000 rpm.
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[/IMG]Can you weld or do you have someone to help you? I would be concerned about losing a stationary vane as well as rubbing the wheel...do the vanes have a tenon that extends into the ring & is peened or are they welded in? Looks like a Z evident in the photo..if so the crack may have initiated in the tenon hole and become challenging to chase...seems like an odd place to crack with little temperature- ( I'm involved with large frame machines) but remember everyone is an expert on the Internet
.What do you use the brake for? Just before engaging the crash box?
Anyway enjoying the thread...
Last edited by 28 V; 11-13-2013 at 09:12 PM. Reason: Inco HX not Hastelloy
#72
What a thread!
Is there really enough beer in RI to get you through this?
You should really find a way to work this into your Christmas Card this year. Just because.
#73
do the vanes have a tenon that extends into the ring & is peened or are they welded in? Looks like a Z evident in the photo..if so the crack may have initiated in the tenon hole and become challenging to chase...seems like an odd place to crack with little temperature- ( I'm involved with large frame machines) but remember everyone is an expert on the Internet
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What do you use the brake for? Just before engaging the crash box?
Great stuff here Gerry, very educational!
#74
Knot-Right :This is a GREAT thread... just as your install into the Skater was!!! Like the fact that you explain each step with a detailed photo.
Out of curosity, what would a recognized shop charge for a full teardown,inspection, reassembly (obviously not for flight status) for a T53 - any idea roughly before necessary parts added to repair costs?
Out of curosity, what would a recognized shop charge for a full teardown,inspection, reassembly (obviously not for flight status) for a T53 - any idea roughly before necessary parts added to repair costs?
I would assume it would be pretty pricey it all depends on what is found.
Jim at PPS would really be the one to answer this.
Your right on flight status
I have to go back and reread my posts to make sure it makes sense.
The fact that people ask questions also helps.
There is alot of little consumables that add up when reassembling a complete engine.
Even the jet a consumption on the test cell can be close to 500$
although in comparison to say a mercury engine it may be less.
#75
Ah looks like (oops posted Hastelloy earlier) Inconel- pccenergygroup.com/assets/smw_docs/fmhx.pdf (no stress relief required- key attribute.. I'm familiar with INCO 82)
Can you weld or do you have someone to help you? I would be concerned about losing a stationary vane as well as rubbing the wheel...do the vanes have a tenon that extends into the ring & is peened or are they welded in? Looks like a Z evident in the photo..if so the crack may have initiated in the tenon hole and become challenging to chase...seems like an odd place to crack with little temperature- ( I'm involved with large frame machines) but remember everyone is an expert on the Internet
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What do you use the brake for? Just before engaging the crash box?
Anyway enjoying the thread...
Can you weld or do you have someone to help you? I would be concerned about losing a stationary vane as well as rubbing the wheel...do the vanes have a tenon that extends into the ring & is peened or are they welded in? Looks like a Z evident in the photo..if so the crack may have initiated in the tenon hole and become challenging to chase...seems like an odd place to crack with little temperature- ( I'm involved with large frame machines) but remember everyone is an expert on the Internet
.What do you use the brake for? Just before engaging the crash box?
Anyway enjoying the thread...
I have a tig but i cant weld for Sh@t. I will go real easy on the petal.
im curios on the gas though straight AR or ar-he?
yes sir on the brake. The n2 system on the 53 is totally isolated from the N1 gas producer.
By design it works well it allows you to stop it at ground idle obviously only for seconds.
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#76
A gift certificate to Boston logans fuel dock would make a hell of a stocking stuffer!!!
#77
i will post a picture out of the 1140 page military technical manual showing this particular nozzle and the accepted cracks.
#79
here some info.
what you see still together here is the basically the N1 gas producer. this is actually the engine
the parts that have been removed so far is the N2 "Turbine" which is what extracts the power from the gas producer.
Note... they spin at different rotations.
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what you see still together here is the basically the N1 gas producer. this is actually the engine
the parts that have been removed so far is the N2 "Turbine" which is what extracts the power from the gas producer.
Note... they spin at different rotations.
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Last edited by KNOT-RIGHT; 11-14-2013 at 09:06 AM.
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Great thread Jerry! Off topic a bit.....Block was fun this summer...what I remember of it. Looking forward to next yr. Personally, I think your nuts digging this deep into those engines, but that's me. I have trouble re-assembling a Lego toy after disassembly! Good luck and Im really enjoying your thread.... Oh, are the Arensons coming in the near future???




